[linux-audio-dev] Re: desktop audio resumed

Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen <k.s.matheussen@notam02.no> k.s.matheussen at notam02.no
Mon Jul 4 15:49:42 UTC 2005

>> On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 02:32 +0200, Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen  wrote:
>>> Lee Revell:
>>> >> It was in response to problems such as these that I began work on a
>>> >> half-kernel, half-userspace system for emulating OSS devices.  It's
>>> been
>>> >> a while since I've done anything with it but if there's any interest
>>> in
>>> >> such a system I could put my code (such as it is) up for download.
>>> >
>>> > No!!!  That's exactly the wrong approach, it will only encourage
>>> > applications to use the OSS API.  Do you really still want to be
>>> using
>>> > the same ancient binary-only flashplayer/realplayer plugin for 5 more
>>> > years?
>>> >
>>> > Why don't you ask the Skype developers when they plan to support
>>> ALSA?
>>> > Or figure out why it crashes with aoss?
>>> >
>>> I strongly disagree with you about this. Ross approach sounds like
>>> whats
>>> needed. The OSS API is easier to understand and leads to less bugs and
>>> less programming time. For programs like SKYPE, mediaplayers and other
>>> types of non-realtime-sound applications, I really think programmers
>>> should go for OSS instead of accessing ALSA directly.
>>> And, as mentioned before, ALSA is linux only (except for alsa 0.5 which
>>> was partly used in older versions QNX I think).
>> It's just as easy to read() and write() with ALSA as OSS.  And if you
>> were designing a cross platform audio app now, OSS would also be a poor
>> choice, you would use PortAudio.
> Okey, sorry, I don't know that much about ALSA.
> But I think it would be wrong to remove the OSS API anyway. Many old
> programs that only use OSS will probably not be updated to use a different
> API, so removing it will irriate people a lot.
> And I don't think your argument about removing the OSS api to avoid
> encouraging is valid at all. If there is a nice bridge for OSS that calls
> alsa/dmix or jack or something, I don't see anything wrong about (certain)
> programs (like SKYPE, mediaplayers...) using OSS.

Oops, I ment; your argument about not making a half-kernel, half-userspace
system for emulating OSS devices to avoid encouraging. Anyway, my points
are still valid, I think. :-)

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