[LAD] LV2 "isn't well thought out ?" LV2 in the Reaper sequencer

Dave Phillips dlphillips at woh.rr.com
Tue Jan 22 11:45:44 UTC 2008


Lars Luthman wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 05:02 -0500, Dave Phillips wrote:
>   
>> Benno Senoner wrote:
>>     
>>> Everyone is invited to add his own point of view and I hope that the 
>>> outcome will be a positive collaboration between LV2 and Reaper.
>>>       
>> Well, Benno, what do you think about the responses so far? Is the spirit 
>> of open collaboration and the welcoming attitude alive & well here ?
>>
>> If I've learned one thing here it's that open sources != open minds.
>>     
>
> Dave just offered to do all the work for them - if that's not in the
> spirit of collaboration I don't know what is.
>   
I quote the entire response:

On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 22:47 +0100, Benno Senoner wrote:

> > Since you are one of the LV2 developers I'd suggest you and all other
> > LV2 devs to take part on that thread on the reaper forum 
> > and enlinghten them about the advantages and flexibility of LV2.
>   

The Reaper forum isn't a useful place for development discussion.

Here, or http://lists.lv2plug.in/listinfo.cgi/devel-lv2plug.in

> >  but better to start the discussion with them now because 
> > we will not know if and when if will become free software
>   

Yeah, right..

Tell you what, if Reaper becomes fully and truly Free Software (by the
FSF definition), I hereby volunteer to implement LV2 support for
them /and/ write good LV2 extensions for any features present in
whatever version of VST they happen to favour.  Ball's in their court.

You can't beg a mechanic to fix your buddy's car when he's welded the
hood shut - and plans to run over the mechanic's bike as soon as it
runs  ;) 

Until then, my bike is Ardour.  Race ya.

-DR-




So responding with sarcasm, "We'll do it my way or not at all" 
conditions, and a confrontive attitude qualifies as "the spirit of 
collaboration" ? Geez, you guys are really winning me over.

> If I've come across as a grumpy old bastard I apologise, because that
> was not my intention. The thing is that I'm just not particularly
> interested in software that can only be used in the way the original
> author allows it to be used. If they actually make it free it's a
> completely different issue.
No fear, no-one's going to ask you or DR for help in this matter.

Best,

dp





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