[LAD] [SUMMARY] LADSPA extension for periodic control values?

[Stefano D'Angelo]

2009/6/18 Jörn Nettingsmeier <nettings at folkwang-hochschule.de>

> hi everybody!
>
> thanks for sharing your thoughts!
>
> Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> > consider the case of periodic control values of LADSPA plugins, for
> > instance the azimuth in a horizontal panner or the phase shift in a
> phaser.
> > currently, they are usually marked as BOUNDED_BELOW and BOUNDED_ABOVE,
> > but the host has no way of knowing that the upper bound is next to the
> > lower bound, so that it can chose the shortest path to the next value
> > when interpolating automation control points.
> >
> > take ardour, for example: if i want to spin a source 360 degrees, i have
> > to start at 0, set a control point at 180, set another control point at
> > the exact next sample to -180 and then onwards. if there is even a
> > single sample between the control points, the interpolation will cause
> > the image to jump in weird ways, because it doesn't know that 180 ==
> -180.
> >
> > does it make sense to add a new hint to LADSPA, something like
> > LADSPA_HINT_PERIODIC? it would mandate LADSPA_HINT_BOUNDED_BELOW and
> > LADSPA_HINT_BOUNDED_ABOVE as well as the respective port range hints,
> > *and* imply that LowerBound is equivalent to UpperBound in the port
> > range hint structure.
> >
> > this would enable hosts to do the Right Thing(tm).
>
> to summarize: there seem to be no objections to adding such a hint
> (stefano's initial critique was about just using it without adding it to
> the standard LADSPA header, iiuc, which has never been intended).
>

Yeah, I just misread your original post, sorry.

some people opined that it could as well be done in LV2 using an
> extension. there is no consensus yet about whether this belongs in the
> existing units extension, but this is orthogonal to the LADSPA issue.
>
> during the discussion, fons brought up the issue of adding an enum type
> to integer ports, to enable hosts to display meaningful string values
> for radio-button-type controls. the general usefulness of this was
> undebated.
>
> an RFC for a LADSPA 1.2 revision including both the "periodic" and the
> "enum" hints will be posted in a new thread.


You might want to talk to Richard Furse as well about this, who is the
author of LADSPA and IIRC he told me he wasn't reading LAD mails lately. You
can find his email at the bottom of the main www.ladspa.org page.

Stefano
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