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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">On Friday 15 February 2013 11:23:02 M Donalies wrote:</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> From what I can tell, the Jack midi interface aspires to hide the underlying</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> Alsa api so an app developer can just use Jack midi and not have to muck</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Maybe you already have read the propaganda, and came here honestly wondering about the truth behind it:</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a href="http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/faq/start#qwhat_is_the_difference_between_jack-midi_and_alsa-midi"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#0057ae;">http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/faq/start#qwhat_is_the_difference_between_jack-midi_and_alsa-midi</span></a> </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Jack MIDI comes to extend/replace ALSA MIDI. "Sadly," they currently co-exist.</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> If this is true, then how do I use Jack in the following senerio: I'm</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> writing a toy gui SMF player that outputs midi events so a program like</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> Using Alsa sequencer, I put events on a queue with a time and Alsa takes</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> care of the rest. If I just use the Jack midi api, how much of this process</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> can Jack do? I'm assuming "not much," since all the apps that I've looked</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> at the source of use the Alsa sequencer.</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> If I wanted to do the sequencing myself, what would be involved? Or am I</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> completely missing the point of what Jack can do?</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I'm hated among Jack MIDI zealots in these lists, because I don't hesitate to voice my opinion in this matter: that ALSA sequencer has a lot more sense in scenarios like yours than Jack MIDI. ALSA sequencer provides sequencer facilities (hence its name) and Jack MIDI does not. Among my own programs only one of them, virtual MIDI piano keyboard, supports Jack MIDI as an option (it is a real-time application with very limited requirements, this may change in the future). But for any other MIDI application with sequencing functionality, using Jack MIDI you will reinvent the wheel.</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Jack MIDI looks like it had been conceived with the goal that Ardour become the one and only sequencer application, and everybody else should write plugins for it. That perhaps would make sense as a bussiness model, and if you want to write a MIDI Synth or some MIDI realtime app complementary to Ardour, Jack MIDI makes certainly more sense than anything else. </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">If you look for other MIDI sequencing applications in Linux, all of them use ALSA sequencer: Rosegarden, Muse, Qtractor... There is one exception: MuseScore is a score editor, with similar goals to yours. It started supporting ALSA sequencer, but switched to Jack MIDI in Linux. It is very popular... in Windows!</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/mscore/files/mscore/stats/os?dates=2012-01-01+to+2012-12-31"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#0057ae;">https://sourceforge.net/projects/mscore/files/mscore/stats/os?dates=2012-01-01+to+2012-12-31</span></a> </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Regards,</p>
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