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On 01/21/2014 12:23 PM, Filipe Coelho wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/21/2014 07:10 PM, John Hammen
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<blockquote type="cite">Then they should wait until their distro
or someone else provides <br>
> >a package. Or pay someone to do the work for them,
just as they <br>
> >have to for commercial software, or for the mechanic
you mention. <br>
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(...)<br>
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the idea being: a person whose paid responsibility it is to make
us LAUs happy with fresh new packages and, ideally also work
with folks upstream on build sanity issues. Filipe, would you be
willing to supervise such a person, feed them the less fun parts
of what you do and check their work?</blockquote>
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If the community is willing to pay for it, sure.<br>
But I find that a bit hard to believe...<br>
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There's a difference on how KXStudio repositories are done vs
regular debian/ubuntu repos.<br>
Debian and Ubuntu usually build against a specific version, and
don't usually do backports.<br>
on KX repos I'm starting build all packages the same way (ie, the
generic linux builds), and update software very often (sometimes
minutes after release :D ).<br>
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I hate when distros only package new stuff for the their newest,
unreleased/testing/upcoming version and completely ignore the
users running stable versions... :(<br>
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it appears my original message didn't make it to the list:<br>
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have to speak up as a LAU and general OSS user: the lack of proper
packaging is certainly a bit hostile to the end user, but I also
agree with this sentiment - it is not the responsibility of the
original developer, that their responsibility ends with the sane
build (i.e. ignore the non-technical user, alright, but do be kind
to those willing to build!)
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but it is simple fact that the packaging (and associated dependency
checking, testing etc.) is painstaking work and not as much fun as
the app development, that's why I'm so grateful to people like the
Debian maintainers, and more locally folks like AutoStatic and
Filipe yourself - I cannot blame you for wanting to see more help in
that department.
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I'm so grateful in fact that I would personally pay $25/month to pay
someone to do this kind of work, I guess I should shut up now and
just start subscribing to kxstudio, but I have to throw it out
there: what about hiring somebody from odesk.com or the like?
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