I am with Arnold's opinion on this. In summary:<br><br>* PulseAudio is not a JACK replacement<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 14/04/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Arnold Krille</b> <<a href="mailto:arnold@arnoldarts.de">arnold@arnoldarts.de</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0; margin-right: 0; margin-bottom: 0; margin-left: 0; margin-left: 0.80ex; border-left-color: #cccccc; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex">
Am Montag, 14. April 2008 schrieb Ken Restivo:<br><br>> On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 10:44:00AM +0200, Alberto Botti wrote:<br> > > Il giorno mar, 08/04/2008 alle 09.53 +0200, <a href="mailto:hollunder@gmx.at">hollunder@gmx.at</a> ha scritto:<br>
> > > Of course, PA and jack don't work together either (at the same time on<br> > > > the same device(interface?) at least). Both need full access.<br> > > I've not tried it yet, but recent versions of PulseAudio have a JACK<br>
> > sink...<br><br>> Maybe I am confused.<br> > Is PulseAudio a replacement for ALSA or does it sit on top of ALSA?<br><br><br>No, PulseAudio sits on top of Alsa like any other sound-library/-server.<br><br><br>
> Is it even attempting to be a replacement for JACK in terms of pro-audio<br> > real-time low-latency?<br><br><br>No more than for example aRts did...<br><br><br> > Or is it a replacement for esd or whatever sound daemon or the GNOME or KDE<br>
> daemon thing use?<br><br><br>It aims to be _the_ replacement for life, the universe and everything. And in<br> my oppinion it will fail big time.<br> Back when KDE did choose aRts for the central soundsystem, there was soon the<br>
call for one soundsystem for all desktops. So there was an attempt to adopt<br> aRts to gnome. After a lot of work from the aRts dev, gnome decided to go<br> with esd...<br> Now KDE introduces a big multimedia-framework that will truly be portable.<br>
(Note that a multimedia-framework is better then a sound-framework for<br> desktop use, because it includes both audio and video in one api.) Phonon<br> will be shipped with Qt and therefor every platform Qt supports will sooner<br>
or later have a working Phonon-backend.<br> Where does PulseAudio come into that picture? - When the gnome-guys realized<br> that esd is out of date and they want a new api/lib. Unfortunately they<br> decided to a) write their own and not adopt what is there and b) to go<br>
audio-only which means no chance of KDE adopting it (apart from the fact that<br> kde already has Phonon). So PulseAudio is by design not _the_ solution for<br> sound on the desktop. It is just another middle-layer for sound. And why<br>
should a desktop-app-dev adopt PulseAudio when he would have to use another<br> api/lib for video? Isn't it better to use one api/lib that has both and even<br> does them in sync?<br> And PulseAudio claims to unify both desktop-needs and pro-audio-needs. Another<br>
place it will fail big time. Because it will never be good enough to have<br> ardour use PulseAudio. (Hint: Jack was designed for ardour...)<br><br><br> > If so, how is PulseAudio any different from any other desktop sound daemon<br>
> that JACK users have been disabling since time immemorial?<br><br><br>PulseAudio is just another api/lib accessing the various sound-daemons we<br> always disable.<br><br> Much personal opinion...<br><br> Arnold<br>
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