Andy,<br><br>If you don't need the keyboard then I'd also recommend a Behringger BFC2000, which has 8 motorized faders and 8 encoders and is well supprted under linux. It's also fairly cheap considering the featureset. I'm pretty sure there are a number of users in this list.<br>
<br>-michael<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:37 PM, andy baxter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andy@earthsong.free-online.co.uk">andy@earthsong.free-online.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi michael,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the info about the remote25. It looks good (just skimming through the review in 'sound on sound'), but I don't really want to get another device with a keyboard when I've just bought one.<br>
<br>
What I really want is a 'bare bones' device with just some encoders, buttons, and an lcd screen. An x-y pad would be nice as well but not essential.<br>
<br>
andy<br>
<br>
michael noble wrote:<br>
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Hi Andy,<br>
<br>
I'm not sure exactly if it is what you need, but I would have thought that any class compliant midi controller with encoders and some facility for controller banks will serve your purpose. The novation remote25 which I have has 8 encoders, 8 knobs, 8 sliders, an x/y pad, joystick and 16 buttons, plus instant recall of any of 64 stored presets of controller mapping. To be honest that's all overkill for me as the only thing I use beside the keyboard are the encoders and the banks, but it serves its purpose. Editing the controllers is not as direct as you seem to wish for, but setting up a new controller with the editing mode takes about 15 seconds and I've done so in live situations when needed. To my knowledge many midi controllers offer similar capabilities.<br>
<br>
As for displaying the current level of a synth or software based parameter on the controller lcd, that all depends mostly on whether the software implements midi feedback or not. Without knowing your specific software its difficult to say what the status of support is.<br>
<br>
-michael n<br>
<br>
<br>
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:28 PM, andy baxter <<a href="mailto:andy@earthsong.free-online.co.uk" target="_blank">andy@earthsong.free-online.co.uk</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:andy@earthsong.free-online.co.uk" target="_blank">andy@earthsong.free-online.co.uk</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
I have just bought a second hand keyboard, (edirol PCR-500) which has<br>
loads of knobs and sliders on it. The trouble is that all the<br>
knobs are<br>
pots, not rotary encoders; encoders would be much more useful I think<br>
because it would mean that if you press a button to switch to a new<br>
synth or effects patch, the correct defaults for it could be<br>
automatically loaded to each of the knobs when you switch. Without<br>
that,<br>
it seems like whenever you switch to a new instrument you would<br>
have to<br>
spend a while tweaking all the knobs to get the right basic sound.<br>
<br>
What I would like is a device with a couple of rotary encoders on it<br>
(you only have two hands), maybe 16 buttons, and a character LCD<br>
screen.<br>
<br>
The way it would work is (something-like):<br>
<br>
- one of the buttons would be for loading new instruments. To<br>
switch to<br>
a new instrument, you would press the button and then turn either<br>
encoder. The LCD would show which instrument you were choosing from a<br>
list, and you would press the button again to make the switch.<br>
- most of the buttons would be for accessing different midi controls.<br>
You could assign a midi control to an encoder by pressing the<br>
button for<br>
that control first, then pressing a button underneath the encoder you<br>
were assigning.<br>
- having done this, that encoder would be bound to that midi control -<br>
turning it would send out midi messages for that control, and also<br>
update a display on the LCD saying what the level of that control is<br>
currently set at.<br>
- loading a new instrument would automatically set the right default<br>
levels for each controller that that instrument used.<br>
<br>
Does anyone know of anything like this that's already being made?<br>
If so<br>
I might get hold of one and see if I can hack it to work with<br>
linux; if<br>
not I'm thinking of having a go at making my own some time.<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
<br>
andy baxter.<br>
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