Heh somewhat late coming into this conversation.<br><br>Something Jan doesn't let on, is that he has shown himself to be more than willing, and has in the past, tried Ardour and hasn't found it up to a point he feels comfortable integrating it into his workflow. He has no problem working with people that do use it, I can say this from personal experience as I am currently working on a different project with him. Not Durian, though I have let him know I am available to help him with this as well and would of course be working in Ardour.<br>
<br>He has also dedicated a lot of time in speaking with me about various aspects he would like to see Ardour improved on so he CAN use it in his workflow.<br><br>I tossed around the idea of approaching Ton through various people I know in the Blender community with a collaboration idea with Ardour, but I don't think I even got to the stage where I brought it up with Paul(Maybe I did, Paul?), for two(Three depending on how you look at it) main reasons. <br>
<br>One is that to be honest, I personally feel getting A3 finished up and polished and out the door will by itself address a HUGE amount of the shortcomings. Hans, Dave, Carl, and Paul (And many others) have all done amazing work thus far in implementing new features that address many shortcomings of it. After this point I will be having a nice long conversation with Jan for instance to see what he feels would need to be done as well to start using it in his pipeline for projects like the Blender projects, but Jan is only one user(No disrespect to him of course) and there are many others that hang out in IRC as well as on the mailing lists that also provide valuable feedback, so I do not wish to discourage them either.<br>
<br>Two, there just isn't the funding in the same way that there is with Blender. Blender dedicates months, and the Blender Foundation pays artists to come over, as well as developers, to work full time on this project. The developers code the features needed by the artists to complete the project. As Jan mentioned this is much more about improving Blender first, and making a movie second. Heck right now we have problems even paying Paul to stay on Ardour full time, much less pay a couple of artists and additional programmers as well, not to mention that the LAU pipeline might include multiple pieces of software(Of which I tend to believe Ardour would be one, but it doesn't necessarily have to be), whereas the Blender pipeline concentrates on a total of one.<br>
<br>As far as my opinion matters(And it probably doesn't much;) I just don't think LAU at this time is ready to provide the same level of financial support needed to pull something like this off. However I would probably still be willing to try if people wanted to, but I would suggest not trying for this year, but to plan far in advance and set attainable goals for this. Then again people are of course free to disagree with me, and as much as I might not agree right now, I am always interested to hear other viewpoints myself;)<br>
<br> Seablade<br><br>PS Yes believe me, I have been explaining what Jack support could mean, especially if combined with netjack, to some of the folks in the Blender community, and we have all been drooling over it;)<br>