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On 02/24/2010 10:25 PM, Peter Geirnaert wrote:
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type="cite">Hi weirdo's<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Folderol <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:folderol@ukfsn.org">folderol@ukfsn.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div class="im">On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:19:34 -1000<br>
david <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnome@hawaii.rr.com">gnome@hawaii.rr.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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> I've thought about a "music" in which notes might have "fractal<br>
> fuzziness" to them - for example, what looks like a quarter note is<br>
> really 8 simultaneous (or non-simultaneous) 32nd notes, each
having a<br>
> frequency that is some fractally-derived distance from the base
quarter<br>
> note's frequency, and perhaps their timing/duration could also be<br>
> fractally derived ... I don't suppose someone knows of such a thing<br>
> already being done?<br>
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Sounds an interesting idea, but I would think it'd be a nightmare to<br>
produce!<br>
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Reminds me of these 2 open-source projects:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://rationale.sourceforge.net">http://rationale.sourceforge.net</a>
and <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.rubato.org">http://www.rubato.org</a><br>
<br>
Here's a description about Rubato someone sent me a while ago: (:-))<br>
<br>
Quote:<br>
"The Rubato project is actually a Mathematical Category Theory<br>
computational/logic framework/language with a music interface. It is
pretty<br>
hairy, even after having read Mazzola's book and his student's
dissertations.<br>
It could certainly stand some examples.<br>
<br>
Apparently, the Rubato project started at CERN (Yeah, the Swiss giant
physics<br>
thing!) and the idea underlying it is that music is a language.
Language, not<br>
in the imprecise way ordinary humans create and understand music, but a
language<br>
capable of precise expression of multidimensional physical and
mathematical<br>
concepts. A natural question would be WHO (or What?) would use such a
language?<br>
Of course, then one wonders how the Europeans could be convinced to
fund and<br>
build the facilities at CERN as it represents a big fraction of the GDP
and<br>
available energy resources? It starts to bring to mind movies like
'Close<br>
Encounters of the Third Kind' and 'Contact'.<br>
<br>
I have not been in direct contact with the Rubato group as first I
wanted to<br>
determine if this stuff was real or bullshit. Odds are that it is
real, or at<br>
least some of it is.<br>
<br>
The whole Mathematical Category area is really strange. First the ages
of many<br>
of the key authors - you'll have to discover that for yourself because
it is the<br>
only way you will believe it. Then their is the apparent aversion to
concrete<br>
examples which lends an air of mystery about it all. And then the
places these<br>
guys just happen to show up and when.<br>
<br>
It is funny where an interest in music and audio synthesis can lead!"<br>
<br>
I didn't really investigate this kind of software any further, but if
you do, please share the insights/results. <br>
I'd love to know more about it!</div>
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This all makes sense when looked at with String Theory goggles on.<br>
<br>
IIUC, the main point in String theory is that everything is a composed
of strings vibrating at different frequencies.<br>
<br>
Hence it follows that music created according to the laws of String
Theory could be used to describe the universe at it's deepest levels.<br>
<br>
Fractal music defintely has a place in that approach. I would love to
have it running alongside Electricsheep. That would be a very cool
immersive experience.<br>
<br>
For those who haven't spent any time looking at the amazing
electricsheep it is well worth the time. It's a very eye opening
experience. It would also make a good place to start from with fractal
music generation.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd</pre>
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