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Am 08.02.2013 12:50, schrieb Paul Davis:
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I do realize that I sound pig-headed, but a license is an
agreement.<br>
If you didn't sign one, how can you possibly violate the
terms?<br>
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"3. The Licensee has no permission to sell, licence,
give-away and/or<br>
distribute the Licensed Software Developer Kit or parts of
it in any<br>
way, on any medium, including the Internet, to any other
person,<br>
including sub-licensors of the Licensee or companies where
the<br>
Licensee has any involvement. This includes re-working
this<br>
specification, or reverse-engineering any products based
upon this<br>
specification."<br>
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The Licensee, Dave, is someone who has been granted a
licence.<br>
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Using something without agreeing to the terms (licence) under
which the provider of that something offers it is theft. "Of
course I can steal and use your $50000 software: I never
agreed to your license!" "Of course I can steal and use your
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as has been patiently explained, vestige is a CLEAN ROOM
reverse engineered version of VST, that was created by someone
who did NOT download the VST SDK, did not USE the VST SDK to
develop it, did not obtain anything from steinberg to develop
it.<br>
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Dave, as a addition: That have nothing to do with accept the license
or not, only, when you have sign the license, you cant do a CLEAN
ROOM reverse engineering of the VST SDK any more, because you have
properly had a look at the source. Therefrom you get a knowledge
which you are didn't allow to use. <br>
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<div>making a parallel with theft is borderline offensive. do
you not understand what the term "clean room reverse
engineering" means?<br>
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now of course, you're free to allege that vestige could not
have been or was not developed in "clean room" style, but that
is an entirely separate claim.<br>
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