<div dir="ltr">I actually did not receive fred's reply. Maybe it was sent only to jonetsu?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 10:24 PM, jonetsu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jonetsu@teksavvy.com" target="_blank">jonetsu@teksavvy.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 20:23:37 +0100<br>
fred <<a href="mailto:f.rech@yahoo.fr">f.rech@yahoo.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
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GOTIT is 0<br>
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> Or you may think it's about share VS not buying something<br>
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Then it is not Open. It is half-baked. It has a 'versus' clause.<br>
Welcome Open, others not. 'Open' is then novlang for 'us'.<br>
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> Yes, but if one people at one time WANT to read that code he could do<br>
> it in the FLOSS world, not in prop 1<br>
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And if one does not agree with an algorithm then one stops using<br>
Ardour. After one month (minimum) of hard work going through the<br>
Ardour code, Ardour is ditched. Now let's move on to QTractor...<br>
Making music ? Well, after this, and hopefully QTractor will be OK,<br>
one has to go through all the plugins. So yes, making music in about a<br>
year from now. Have to keep an eye on Ardour updates at the same<br>
time. Hopefully there will not be a OS update by then, because one<br>
will have to recheck all of the audio infrastructure code.<br>
<br>
Maybe one will be contented in making some C64-like noises a year from<br>
now, in between two code examinations.<br>
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> > Especially funny to read that you want to focus on music. Isn't<br>
> > focusing code directly contradicts<br>
> > focusing on music?<br>
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</span>> You got the point, where jonetsu, hmm...<br>
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THERE:<br>
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It was written:<br>
<span class=""><br>
"So if the goal is to spend more time doing music, then reading the code<br>
to all the software is out of the question."<br>
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</span>> Yes, cracking is not a good stuff. OTOH, software MAY be for free.<br>
> Once you have done "1.0", who is not able to copy it for free?<br>
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Makes me think, just bought the latest from Italian band Deux ex<br>
Machina (1). Because I find it important to give money. And this is a<br>
small label, so it also helps them. It so happens that people need<br>
money to go by. Designing and implementing quality software takes<br>
time. Doing it in evenings and weekend is no longer enough. It was at<br>
a certain time, not it does not fare as well because software gets more<br>
sophisticated.<br>
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> I can provide you a thousands lines of 1 mail-xchanges with<br>
> sony-clients-service, which leads to nowhere...<br>
> AND a thousands differents mails on LAU which leads to solution...<br>
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That's not a good comparison isn't it. It's uprooted. So let's compare<br>
instead with Bitwig. Let's compare with u-he. Let's compare with<br>
Harrison. DiscoDSP. OvertoneDSP. Filterscape was given to me by<br>
u-he. Let's compare with u-he Linux support on KVR.<br>
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> > How's that for focus on<br>
> > music?<br>
</span>> Again, You got the point, where jonetsu, hmm...<br>
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inc GOTIT<br>
if GOTIT is 1<br>
GOTO THERE<br>
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> Here is LAU-list, who is talking about buying software? Who needs to<br>
> crack a FLOSS stuff?<br>
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This was part of Phil's text.<br>
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>> In my view, both worlds offer complementary things.<br>
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</span>> I agree, in some world you need to buy things!<br>
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Let's make it simple and let's say this world right here. Like food,<br>
for instance.<br>
<span class=""><br>
> > I use both proprietary packages and<br>
> > FLOSS.<br>
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</span>> I don't, & my people &I knows why.<br>
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Why ?<br>
<span class=""><br>
>> There is no FLStudio on Linux, but then there is no JACK-like<br>
>> environment with<br>
>> the apps I need, like kluppe or din. So, I use both.<br>
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</span>> Do you need to USE STUFF, or to DO THINGS ?<br>
> Learn how to use tools is the point. Improve they is the key;<br>
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At which point one stops making music to design sound generation<br>
algorithms that will rival with the best softsynths out there. I would<br>
wage, though, that after near a year of full dedicated work one will<br>
wonder why one does not get paid for this great sounding softsynth he<br>
just made (well, when it will get a UI because so far there's no time<br>
to work on a UI yet...)<br>
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> Good luck if you are willing to face Stallman with controversy in<br>
> mind! Oh, Louigi, don't take all that personal too much; I really<br>
> appreciate what you often post here..<br>
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If Stallman reflects the Close mind of Open activists.<br>
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(1) Deus Ex Machina - "Figli"<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyS5V6wJ1mk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=yyS5V6wJ1mk</a><br>
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Live Bologna 7/10/16 "Multiverso" (Official video) :<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRrDJntwsa8" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=cRrDJntwsa8</a><br>
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NP: "The 16 F_king Years Anniversary Session" - Kruder & Dorfmeister<br>
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