[Jack-Devel] Remaining problems

[liebrecht at grossmann-venter.com]

On 2019-03-27 00:57, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> it's not easy to help with that, since there not only is much talk
> about idiotic features jack should provide,

Hi Ralf. No problem I solved the Mixbus input problem a boatload of 
others.

The big problem was qjackctl for me that has been putting me on a wild 
goose chase for quite some time as almost everyone made it seem 
indispensable which really did not work for me.

I have
1) pulseaudio routing to jack without qjackctl. Completely uninstalled 
and never used.
1) Bluetooth with all my bluetooth devices working perfect.
2) all desktop audio
3) Mixbus working great now and I can route to both pulse if I want to 
but default to Jack with no xruns at very low latency.
3) all applications now routed through either pulseaudio where it makes 
sense (such as bluetooth) and other directly to jack.
4) I have 6 other midi devices audio routing perfectly.
5) I have my audio keyboard shortcuts running flawlessly using pulse.
6) and more.., such as adding a mixer to my jack outputs to the Main 
181VSL output.

I dont understand the "idiotic" accusation. I just wanted to haver a 
failsafe between the Main output and jack. It works great. I never 
suggested to have all ports with volume controls, please read my posts.


I have a few outstanding problems, but they will be easily solved.

It all works brilliantly and my method is solid.

In order to document it in a repeatable deterministic way, I will 
uninstall everything and then reinstall using my notes until everything 
works after complete uninstalation and reinstallation  which makes sure 
that the documentation is correct and accurate and repeatable. Just 
documenting it makes no sense and results in an essay open for 
interpretation. Essays are basically mostly what you get on the 
internet. That is fine but they are generally not executable.

I hope it satisfies your concern about my uninstallation/reinstallation. 
It has scientific merrit if you think of it. So I really dont understand 
the concern.
This way I get a rugged document for at least Debian Stretch based on a 
few complete install/reinstalls. I already did one, and will do the last 
one after I fixed the few remaining problems.

I think you misinterpret what I try to do by your criticsm of me working 
from a known reference by reinstallation. Document and reinstall 
actually helped me to solve the problem easily in the end.

I must thank a lot of people helping me warts and all scraps and 
scruffs, jabs, insults included.

But I specially want to thank John Rigg for very helpful suggestions in 
a gentlemanly fashion.

Thanks John.



> Hi,
> 
> it's not easy to help with that, since there not only is much talk
> about idiotic features jack should provide, more confusing is that
> already provided information is not easy to find again, because you
> didn't stay with a clean thread, you opened one subject after the 
> other.
> 
> Subject: [Jack-Devel] Jack Problems
> Subject: [Jack-Devel] Uninstalled Pulseaudio Jack/jackd2 Jack
> Reinstalled  still wont start.
> Subject: [Jack-Devel] Pulseaudio Replacement
> Subject: [Jack-Devel] Remaining problems
> Subject: Re: [Jack-Devel] JACK is a great deterministic audio server
> 
> That's no well-structured troubleshooting.
> 
> I don't know which issue in what way is really already solved.
> 
> Randomly patching something together, so that half of a problem is
> solved, has nothing to do with troubleshooting. Maybe half of the issue
> isn't solved, because what is working now, is just a cheap fix for half
> of the issue, but the cause that the issue can't be solved completely.
> 
> Thank heaven, that you don't need to care about volume controls
> provided by jack, too ;).
> 
> I recommend to do one step after the other.
> 
> 1. Try to solve all input and output issues, excepted of bluetooth, IOW
> without pulseaudio first. IOW even if you don't want to use Qjackctl,
> get jack and qjackctl running first.
> 
> 2. Once it's possible to get all IOs working with jack and qjackctl you
> could drop qjackctl and get pulseaudio working together with jack.
> 
> It was already pointed out earlier that uninstalling and reinstalling
> is no well-structured troubleshooting.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf
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