<div dir="ltr">Dear Chris,<div>many thanks for all your info and suggestions. For the moment I want to test netjack2, I will definitively try the zita bridge asap.</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding your questions, I have never truncated the commands outputs.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Firstly, the -Cno -Pyes commands remove the warning "Default input and output devices are not the same !!", while having only -P does not.</div><div>I have specified the parameters for coreaudio. I did various trials, I report the outputs below.</div><div><br></div><div><div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">TRIAL 1 ----------------------------------------------------</div><div>On the master (Mac computer)<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>sh-3.2# jackd -P 70 -p96 -t 2000 -dcoreaudio -s -r48000 -p128 -n2 -Cno -Pyes</div><div>jackdmp 1.9.11</div><div>Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.</div><div>Copyright 2004-2016 Grame.</div><div>jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY</div><div>This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it</div><div>under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details</div><div>JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 70</div><div>self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"</div><div>Separated input = 'Built-in Microphone'</div><div>Separated output = 'Built-in Output'</div><div>Clock drift compensation was asked but is not needed (devices use the same clock domain)</div><div>Ignore incorrect channel mapping value = 2</div><div>Input channel = 0 ==> JACK input port = 0</div><div>Input channel = 1 ==> JACK input port = 1</div><div>JACK output port = 0 ==> output channel = 0</div><div>JACK output port = 1 ==> output channel = 1</div><div>DeviceNotificationCallback kAudioDeviceProcessorOverload</div><div>CoreAudio driver is running...</div><div>Starting Jack NetManager</div><div>Listening on '<a href="http://225.3.19.154:19000">225.3.19.154:19000</a>'</div><div>Takes physical 2 audio output(s) for slave</div><div>Takes physical 0 MIDI input(s) for slave</div><div>Takes physical 0 MIDI output(s) for slave</div><div>Sending parameters to ...</div><div>Floating point exception: 8</div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On the slave (the linux odroid board):</div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div></div><div><div>> jackd -R -d net</div><div>jackdmp 1.9.11</div><div>Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.</div><div>Copyright 2004-2015 Grame.</div><div>jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY</div><div>This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it</div><div>under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10</div><div>self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"</div><div>NetDriver started in async mode without Master's transport sync.</div><div>Waiting for a master...</div><div>Initializing connection with ucas-MacBook-Pro-9.local...</div><div>Maximum number of input ports is reached for application ref = 0</div><div>driver: cannot register port for system:midi_playback_769</div><div>Can't allocate ports.</div><div>Initing net driver fails...</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>TRIAL 2 ----------------------------------------------------</div><div><br></div><div>On the master (Mac computer)<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>sh-3.2# jackd -P 70 -p96 -t 2000 -dcoreaudio -s -r48000 -p128 -n2 -Cno -Pyes</div><div>jackdmp 1.9.11</div><div>Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.</div><div>Copyright 2004-2016 Grame.</div><div>jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY</div><div>This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it</div><div>under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details</div><div>JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 70</div><div>self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"</div><div>Separated input = 'Built-in Microphone'</div><div>Separated output = 'Built-in Output'</div><div>Clock drift compensation was asked but is not needed (devices use the same clock domain)</div><div>Ignore incorrect channel mapping value = 2</div><div>Input channel = 0 ==> JACK input port = 0</div><div>Input channel = 1 ==> JACK input port = 1</div><div>JACK output port = 0 ==> output channel = 0</div><div>JACK output port = 1 ==> output channel = 1</div><div>DeviceNotificationCallback kAudioDeviceProcessorOverload</div><div>CoreAudio driver is running...</div><div>Starting Jack NetManager</div><div>Listening on '<a href="http://225.3.19.154:19000">225.3.19.154:19000</a>'</div><div>Sending parameters to ...</div><div>Can't set net buffer sizes : Invalid argument</div><div>SetParams error...</div><div>Can't init new NetMaster...</div><div>Waiting for a slave...</div></div><div><br></div><div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">On the slave (the linux odroid board):<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><div>> jackd -R -d net -a 225.3.19.154 -p 19000 -C 0 -P 2 -i 0 -o 0</div><div>jackdmp 1.9.11</div><div>Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.</div><div>Copyright 2004-2015 Grame.</div><div>jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY</div><div>This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it</div><div>under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10</div><div>self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"</div><div>NetDriver started in async mode without Master's transport sync.</div><div>Waiting for a master...</div><div>Initializing connection with ucas-MacBook-Pro-9.local...</div><div>Maximum number of input ports is reached for application ref = 0</div><div>driver: cannot register port for system:midi_playback_767</div><div>Can't allocate ports.</div><div>Initing net driver fails...</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">TRIAL 3----------------------------------------------------</div><div><br></div><div>On the master (Mac computer)<br></div><div><br></div><div>jack_load netmanager -i "-h" gives:</div><div><br></div><div><div>Internal client parameters:</div><div><span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>-a, --multicast-ip <span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Multicast address (default: 225.3.19.154)</div><div><span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>-p, --udp-net-port <span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>UDP port (default: 19000)</div><div><span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>-c, --auto-connect <span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Auto connect netmaster to system ports (default: false)</div><div><span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>-s, --auto-save <span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Save/restore netmaster connection state when restarted (default: false)</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Therefore I typed: jack_load netmanager -i "-c true"</div><div>netmanager is running.</div><div>client name = netmanager</div><div><br></div><div>The result does not change....</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>sh-3.2# jackd -P 70 -p96 -t 2000 -dcoreaudio -s -r48000 -p128 -n2 -Cno -Pyes</div><div>jackdmp 1.9.11</div><div>Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.</div><div>Copyright 2004-2016 Grame.</div><div>jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY</div><div>This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it</div><div>under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details</div><div>JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 70</div><div>self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"</div><div>Separated input = 'Built-in Microphone'</div><div>Separated output = 'Built-in Output'</div><div>Clock drift compensation was asked but is not needed (devices use the same clock domain)</div><div>Ignore incorrect channel mapping value = 2</div><div>Input channel = 0 ==> JACK input port = 0</div><div>Input channel = 1 ==> JACK input port = 1</div><div>JACK output port = 0 ==> output channel = 0</div><div>JACK output port = 1 ==> output channel = 1</div><div>CoreAudio driver is running...</div><div>Starting Jack NetManager</div><div>Listening on '<a href="http://225.3.19.154:19000">225.3.19.154:19000</a>'</div><div>Sending parameters to ...</div><div>Can't set net buffer sizes : Invalid argument</div><div>SetParams error...</div><div>Can't init new NetMaster...</div><div>Waiting for a slave...</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">On the slave (the linux odroid board):<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><div>> jackd -R -d net -a 225.3.19.154 -p 19000 -C 0 -P 2 -i 0 -o 0</div><div>jackdmp 1.9.11</div><div>Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.</div><div>Copyright 2004-2015 Grame.</div><div>jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY</div><div>This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it</div><div>under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10</div><div>self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"</div><div>NetDriver started in async mode without Master's transport sync.</div><div>Waiting for a master...</div><div>Initializing connection with ucas-MacBook-Pro-9.local...</div><div>Maximum number of input ports is reached for application ref = 0</div><div>driver: cannot register port for system:midi_playback_767</div><div>Can't allocate ports.</div><div>Initing net driver fails...</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"><br></div><div><div>TRIAL 4 ----------------------------------------------------</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I used a different buffer size 1024 and with or without specifying the maximum number of port of jackd</div><div><br></div><div>jackd -P 70 -t 2000 -dcoreaudio -s -r48000 -p1024 -n2 -Cno -Pyes<br></div><div><br></div><div>jackd -P 70 -p96 -t 2000 -dcoreaudio -s -r48000 -p1024 -n2 -Cno -Pyes<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The result are the same of before.,...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"><br></div><div>TRIAL 5 ----------------------------------------------------</div></div><div><div><br></div><div>Notably if I just us: jackd -R -d net or jackd -R -d net -a 225.3.19.154 -p 19000 or </div><div><br></div><div>the crashing error "Floating point exception: 8" arises, while it does not specifying jackd -R -d net -a 225.3.19.154 -p 19000 -C 0 -P 2 (see TRIAL 6) :</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">On the master (Mac computer)<br></div><div><br></div><div><div>sh-3.2# jackd -P 70 -p96 -t 2000 -dcoreaudio -s -r48000 -p128 -n2 -Cno -Pyes</div><div>jackdmp 1.9.11</div><div>Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.</div><div>Copyright 2004-2016 Grame.</div><div>jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY</div><div>This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it</div><div>under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details</div><div>JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 70</div><div>self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"</div><div>Separated input = 'Built-in Microphone'</div><div>Separated output = 'Built-in Output'</div><div>Clock drift compensation was asked but is not needed (devices use the same clock domain)</div><div>Ignore incorrect channel mapping value = 2</div><div>Input channel = 0 ==> JACK input port = 0</div><div>Input channel = 1 ==> JACK input port = 1</div><div>JACK output port = 0 ==> output channel = 0</div><div>JACK output port = 1 ==> output channel = 1</div><div>DeviceNotificationCallback kAudioDeviceProcessorOverload</div><div>CoreAudio driver is running...</div><div>Starting Jack NetManager</div><div>Listening on '<a href="http://225.3.19.154:19000">225.3.19.154:19000</a>'</div><div>Takes physical 2 audio output(s) for slave</div><div>Takes physical 0 MIDI input(s) for slave</div><div>Takes physical 0 MIDI output(s) for slave</div><div>Sending parameters to ...</div><div>Floating point exception: 8</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">On the slave (the linux odroid board):<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>> jackd -R -d net</div><div>jackdmp 1.9.11</div><div>Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.</div><div>Copyright 2004-2015 Grame.</div><div>jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY</div><div>This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it</div><div>under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10</div><div>self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"</div><div>NetDriver started in async mode without Master's transport sync.</div><div>Waiting for a master...</div><div>Initializing connection with ucas-MacBook-Pro-9.local...</div><div>Maximum number of input ports is reached for application ref = 0</div><div>driver: cannot register port for system:midi_playback_769</div><div>Can't allocate ports.</div><div>Initing net driver fails...</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"><br></div><div>TRIAL 6 ----------------------------------------------------</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On the master (Mac computer)<br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><div>sh-3.2# jackd -P 70 -p96 -t 2000 -dcoreaudio -s -r48000 -p128 -n2 -Cno -Pyes</div><div>jackdmp 1.9.11</div><div>Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.</div><div>Copyright 2004-2016 Grame.</div><div>jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY</div><div>This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it</div><div>under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details</div><div>JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 70</div><div>self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"</div><div>Separated input = 'Built-in Microphone'</div><div>Separated output = 'Built-in Output'</div><div>Clock drift compensation was asked but is not needed (devices use the same clock domain)</div><div>Ignore incorrect channel mapping value = 2</div><div>Input channel = 0 ==> JACK input port = 0</div><div>Input channel = 1 ==> JACK input port = 1</div><div>JACK output port = 0 ==> output channel = 0</div><div>JACK output port = 1 ==> output channel = 1</div><div>CoreAudio driver is running...</div><div>Starting Jack NetManager</div><div>Listening on '<a href="http://225.3.19.154:19000">225.3.19.154:19000</a>'</div><div>Takes physical 0 MIDI output(s) for slave</div><div>Sending parameters to ...</div><div>Can't set net buffer sizes : Invalid argument</div><div>SetParams error...</div><div>Can't init new NetMaster...</div><div>Waiting for a slave...</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">On the slave (the linux odroid board):<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>> jackd -R -d net -a 225.3.19.154 -p 19000 -C 0 -P 2</div><div>jackdmp 1.9.11</div><div>Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.</div><div>Copyright 2004-2015 Grame.</div><div>jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY</div><div>This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it</div><div>under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>no message buffer overruns</div><div>JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10</div><div>self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"</div><div>NetDriver started in async mode without Master's transport sync.</div><div>Waiting for a master...</div><div>Initializing connection with ucas-MacBook-Pro-9.local...</div><div>Maximum number of input ports is reached for application ref = 0</div><div>driver: cannot register port for system:midi_playback_767</div><div>Can't allocate ports.</div><div>Initing net driver fails...</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Still the problems persists. I can't proceed... Any further suggestion to make work the two jackified units?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Chris Caudle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris@chriscaudle.org" target="_blank">chris@chriscaudle.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I had some firewall configuration problems preventing successful multicast<br> packet exchange between my test machines, but I got that sorted out by<br> temporarily just disabling the firewall on one machine.<br> <br> This is the output I see from each machine.<br> <br> On machine with USB interface attached (jackd master):<br> <br> ]$ /usr/bin/jackd -P70 -t2000 -dalsa -dhw:Lambda -r48000 -p1024 -n3 -Xseq<br> -zt -I376 -O376<br> jackdmp 1.9.10<br> <span class="">Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.<br> </span>Copyright 2004-2014 Grame.<br> <span class="">jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY<br> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it<br> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details<br> </span><span class="">no message buffer overruns<br> no message buffer overruns<br> no message buffer overruns<br> </span>JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 70<br> <span class="">self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"<br> </span>audio_reservation_init<br> Acquire audio card Audio0<br> creating alsa driver ...<br> hw:Lambda|hw:Lambda|1024|3|<wbr>48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|<wbr>32bit<br> configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 3 periods<br> ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 24bit little-endian<br> ALSA: use 3 periods for capture<br> ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 24bit little-endian<br> ALSA: use 3 periods for playback<br> Using port names patch v0.1 (07.04.2010)<br> Trying to load portnames from /home/chris/.config/jack/<wbr>cards/Lexicon<br> <a href="http://Lambda.ss.ports.in" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Lambda.ss.ports.in</a><br> Trying to load portnames from /home/chris/.config/jack/<wbr>cards/Lexicon<br> <a href="http://Lambda.ports.in" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Lambda.ports.in</a><br> Trying to load portnames from /etc/jack/cards/Lexicon <a href="http://Lambda.ss.ports.in" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Lambda.ss.ports.in</a><br> Trying to load portnames from /etc/jack/cards/Lexicon <a href="http://Lambda.ports.in" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Lambda.ports.in</a><br> Trying to load portnames from /home/chris/.config/jack/<wbr>cards/Lexicon<br> Lambda.ss.ports.out<br> Trying to load portnames from /home/chris/.config/jack/<wbr>cards/Lexicon<br> Lambda.ports.out<br> Trying to load portnames from /etc/jack/cards/Lexicon Lambda.ss.ports.out<br> Trying to load portnames from /etc/jack/cards/Lexicon Lambda.ports.out<br> port created: Midi-Through:midi/playback_1<br> port created: Midi-Through:midi/capture_1<br> port created: Lexicon-Lambda:midi/playback_1<br> port created: Lexicon-Lambda:midi/capture_1<br> <br> --------------------<br> in separate console loaded netmanager at this point.<br> output from netmanager load:<br> $ jack_load netmanager<br> netmanager is running.<br> client name = netmanager<br> --------------------<br> <span class=""><br> Starting Jack NetManager<br> Listening on '<a href="http://225.3.19.154:19000" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">225.3.19.154:19000</a>'<br> <br> </span>---------------------<br> slave machine jackd started at this point<br> This is still output from master side, just making a timing notation<br> ---------------------<br> <br> Takes physical 2 audio input(s) for slave<br> <span class="">Takes physical 2 audio output(s) for slave<br> </span>Takes physical 2 MIDI input(s) for slave<br> Takes physical 2 MIDI output(s) for slave<br> Sending parameters to oldchubb...<br> New NetMaster started<br> **************** Network parameters ****************<br> Name : oldchubb<br> Protocol revision : 8<br> MTU : 1500<br> Master name : chubb.cc-net<br> Slave name : oldchubb<br> ID : 1<br> Transport Sync : no<br> Send channels (audio - midi) : 2 - 2<br> Return channels (audio - midi) : 2 - 2<br> Sample rate : 48000 frames per second<br> Period size : 1024 frames per period<br> Network latency : 5 cycles<br> SampleEncoder : Float<br> Slave mode : async<br> ******************************<wbr>**********************<br> Waiting for a slave...<br> Synching with latency = 0<br> Synching with latency = 1<br> Synching with latency = 2<br> Synching with latency = 3<br> Synching with latency = 4<br> <br> <br> Output from slave side:<br> <br> $ /usr/bin/jackd -dnet<br> jackdmp 1.9.10<br> <span class="">Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.<br> </span>Copyright 2004-2014 Grame.<br> <span class="">jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY<br> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it<br> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details<br> </span><span class="">no message buffer overruns<br> no message buffer overruns<br> no message buffer overruns<br> </span>JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 20<br> <span class="">self-connect-mode is "Don't restrict self connect requests"<br> </span><span class="">NetDriver started in async mode without Master's transport sync.<br> Waiting for a master...<br> </span>Initializing connection with chubb.cc-net...<br> **************** Network parameters ****************<br> Name : oldchubb<br> Protocol revision : 8<br> MTU : 1500<br> Master name : chubb.cc-net<br> Slave name : oldchubb<br> ID : 1<br> Transport Sync : no<br> Send channels (audio - midi) : 2 - 2<br> Return channels (audio - midi) : 2 - 2<br> Sample rate : 48000 frames per second<br> Period size : 1024 frames per period<br> Network latency : 5 cycles<br> SampleEncoder : Float<br> Slave mode : async<br> ******************************<wbr>**********************<br> <br> <br> So it seems that contrary to the documentation netjack2 will create MIDI<br> channels by default, and at least on my system (where the interface does<br> support duplex mode) I can start netjack with no arguments and the default<br> behavior will successfully create a connection.<br> <br> So I think at this point my guess is that the last output shown by the<br> original poster indicates some kind of mismatch between the jack ALSA<br> parameters and the allowed netjack parameters:<br> <span class="">>> Can't set net buffer sizes : Invalid argument<br> >> SetParams error...<br> >> Can't init new NetMaster...<br> <br> </span>I thought maybe the buffer size was too large, but the original post was<br> using -p128 -n2, and at least on my machine I use -p1024 -n3 and that did<br> not have a problem.<br> <br> But again, the last message from the original post did not show the<br> "configuring for..." output line from jackd, so either the jackd output<br> was truncated in the posting, removing information necessary to help<br> debug, or the ALSA backend did not actually start correctly.<br> <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br> --<br> Chris<br> </font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br> <br> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> Jack-Devel mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Jack-Devel@lists.jackaudio.org">Jack-Devel@lists.jackaudio.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.jackaudio.org/listinfo.cgi/jack-devel-jackaudio.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.jackaudio.org/<wbr>listinfo.cgi/jack-devel-<wbr>jackaudio.org</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>