[linux-audio-dev] Re: Behringer

Marek Peteraj marpet at naex.sk
Thu Dec 2 02:36:11 UTC 2004


On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 00:13, Dave Robillard wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-01-12 at 03:38 +0100, Marek Peteraj wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 00:09, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 05:32:30PM -0500, Dave Robillard wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I'd rather not have people with this ignorant 'closed drivers = good'
> > > > opinion turning Linux into yet another Windows.  If you want a sh***y
> > > > proprietary OS, there's plenty to choose from already.  Do the rest of
> > > > us a favour and don't advocate turning Linux into yet another one.
> > > 
> > > I will follow you reasoning up to a point.
> > > 
> > > Suppose we have a card X with a closed source driver. You will not
> > > use it. Now we make a new card Y, which is actually an X with the
> > > functionality of the driver pushed into the (closed source) firmware.
> > > We make a third card Z with the same functionality pushed inside the
> > > hardware.
> > > 
> > > Will you use Y ?
> > > Will you use Z ?
> > > 
> > > If the answer to either is yes, what is the essential difference ?
> > 
> > It's a lot more likely that Z will work very well with a newer
> > kernel/system/api/whatever with changes applied to the open source
> > driver. You can forget about that with product X once it gets
> > discontinued.
> > 
> > I take Z. 
> > 
> > Marek
> 
> This is a very good point I forgot to mention.
> 
> I sincerely hope Nvidia drops all linux support some time in the future.
> It's the only way some people will learn.

Seems like there's no other chance. Sigh.

The problem is that people are reluctant to give up some of their
artificial (or bogus, from the manufacturers perspective) convenience in
order to gain a lot more of true, genuine oss convenience in the future.

Marek




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