[linux-audio-dev] Re: linuxaudio.org

Marek Peteraj marpet at naex.sk
Wed Jan 21 18:32:53 UTC 2004


On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 11:10, Daniel James wrote:
> > > It's true that I did initiate the arrangement whereby the Linux
> > > audio community gets representation at a major UK audio industry
> > > trade show,
> >
> > Suddenly you're now speaking as the representative of the whole
> > Linux audio community.
> 
> No - a consortium can only represent its members.

"Linux audio community gets representation..."

> 
> > The only true 
> > representatives of the Linux Audio community are the Linux Audio
> > Developers.
> 
> By which you mean members of a mailing list, or the actual developers 
> doing the work? This may come as a surprise to you, but many libre 
> software developers admit that they need help to promote their 
> software - either because they don't have the time, experience of 
> working with the media or public speaking skills.

Then let's focus on software and its developers.

> 
> > > The organisers have agreed
> > > to give us the stand at cost, which they didn't have to do.
> >
> > So how is that different from LinuxTag or ZKM?
> 
> If you read up on the event you'll see it is specifically about audio 
> and music technology, which LinuxTag is not. Running this kind of 
> stand at a Linux event would be 'preaching to the converted'. As for 
> ZKM, that is a developer event, not really an event for users who 
> don't even know what Linux is yet.
> 
> > The only thing we should promote right now are
> > the Linux Audio applications.
> 
> er... that's what we are doing.
> 
> > Companies have resources to promote 
> > themselves.
> 
> I don't think you appreciate the situation with regard to the small 
> companies that are funding free software development, while trying to 
> make a living for developers at the same time. They are not rich. 
> Even combined, their resources are tiny compared to the proprietary 
> software companies.
> 
> > And it makes no sense to promote Linux Audio Users at 
> > such event.
> 
> What have you got against users? Is it because I'm a user rather than 
> a developer?
> 
> > The problem is - Frank, Joern, Matthias were doing a great job
> > organising events and helping the Linux Audio Developers to promote
> > their open source Linux Audio applications.
> 
> Agreed - but only events in Germany as far as I know. There are other 
> countries too.

http://www.metadecks.org/events/lca2004/

> 
> > They never called 
> > themselves the directors of LAD.
> 
> Perhaps that's because a mailing list is not an organisation. If they 
> had set up an organisation and called themselves directors of it, I 
> don't think anyone would have complained.
> 
> > I see ZKM as a very important event simply because it's growing
> > into a larger conference, an event solely aimed at Linux Audio, an
> > event that will be aimed at both Linux Audio Developers and Linux
> > Audio Users this year. A place where the developers, journalists
> > and music industry can meet each other.
> 
> As long as they a) know the event exists and b) are sufficiently 
> interested to travel to Germany for it.

http://www.metadecks.org/events/lca2004/

> 
> > I think such an event is much more important than any stand.
> 
> Yes - but we're aiming our effort at a very different audience.

Could you explain?

> > I urge you again to withhold the establishing of any consortium
> 
> Already done.

Already done witholding?

> 
> > Regarding the consortium list.
> > The old thread is gone. Was there anything you should hide?
> 
> No. It was only a temporary list.
> 
> > I 
> > believe that another private mailing list with the old thread still
> > exists.
> 
> You sound paranoid.

http://lists.linuxaudio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/consortium-p

Marek




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