[linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

[cdr]

> > Heh, I'm only a novice programmer, and I'm already lazy :)

since this thread is so GTK+-centric i'll chime in and say ive found nothing i like for easily creating customized/flexible GUIs more than Tcl/Tk and Ruby-on-Rails. both tools allow me to do exactly what i want with minimal fuss - i still dont know anything about C++ memory management and am grateful for ways to easily bring my ideas to life without an advanced CS degree.

once going beyond sortable lists and selectorboxes, youre going to end up with some kind of canvas, at which point TCL is very mature, and Gecko/XulRunner with its new <Canvas> object is turning into nice option. or even python/ruby bindings to Cairo...

> cousins like ksycoca, kdeinit, klauncher etc. But this isn't true with
> gnome.

this is unfortunately true. if you are running openbox, or evilWM or what not, you might as well be running KDE if you are ever going to us a KDE app. for example amarok will take 15 seconds to startup on the latest machine as all sorts of crap daemons loaded:

root     14912  0.0  0.5  71936 11292 ?        Ss   09:40   0:00 kdeinit Running...
root     14915  0.0  0.1  69684  3156 ?        S    09:40   0:00 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid
root     14917  0.0  0.4  72404  8956 ?        S    09:40   0:00 klauncher [kdeinit]
root     14919  0.1  1.0  97624 21360 ?        S    09:40   0:59 kded [kdeinit]
root     14935  0.0  0.6  75868 12708 ?        S    09:41   0:00 kaccess [kdeinit]
root     14938  0.0  0.6  74832 13016 ?        S    09:41   0:00 ksmserver [kdeinit]

gnome apps do nothing of the sort