[LAD] [EPAMP] an effect plugin API for media players: anyone interested?

Stefano D'Angelo zanga.mail at gmail.com
Mon Jun 2 14:18:52 UTC 2008

2008/6/2 Georg Holzmann <grh at mur.at>:
> Hallo!
>>>> Of course, if something is missing in EPAMP, that requires a new
>>>> version... and that's why I'm trying to talk with them already.
>>> Using plugins in media players is brain dead idea, but if they want that
>>> they have quite a lot of possibilities anyway. Using LV2 plugins through
>>> helper library like slv2 is really easy.
>> So, how many media players have that or are going to do that? I guess
>> numbers are not on your side. :-\
> I think that's a good point, but IMHO the solution is not to just invent the
> next plugin standard.
> Everything you need can be done with LV2 plugins, although you might need a
> new extension.
> However, if we wish that many media players will support an effect plugin
> API, then an easy to use library must be implemented and well distributed,
> which supports all needed lv2 extensions you want, so that writing an LV2
> hosts becomes a really easy thing.

It's not that simple IMHO, but I'm absolutely open to discussion.

> So I appreciate very much your attempt for creating a common, easy to use
> API. However, IMHO the answer should be to extended and distribute LV2 so
> that it supports all your needs - then all efforts would be combined ...

If LV2 authors seriously want to do that, I'm more than willing to
kill EPAMP and cooperate with them.

>> Think about it, if an host supports 5.1 output and stereo input, it
>> really should know how to do conversion without relying on external
>> plugins, or am I missing something?
> Well, there exist many methods for spatialization (you could also think
> about ambisonic and other techniques) - it's not likely that a simple media
> player will implement all of them ...

In fact most media players just have mono and stereo output and they
can't do more complicated spatialization even with external LV2
plugins (if they were supported).


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