[LAD] students and copyright

[jaromil]

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re all,

On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:49:36PM -0400, David Robillard wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 12:33 +0200, jaromil wrote:
> > still, myself  being a  person working in  education, i  think the
> > problem is more structural: i'd  rather question why students in a
> > school  should be  contributing to  a professor's  project, rather
> > than starting one on their own?  they could learn how to work in a
> > more horizontal and creative way, even if the project will be less
> > interesting in  the eyes of the  director, who should  be there to
> > give suggestions and help on students projects, not the contrary.
> 
> This sounds a lot  like elementary/middle/high school thinking being
> applied to University where it really doesn't apply (no offense)
> 
> There are plenty of opportunities for students to do their own thing
> as  course   work  (or  directed  studies   courses,  if  possible).
> Professor-run  projects  are   generally  larger,  more  complicated
> things, that some random student on  their own is not about to write
> in a  term or two.  They  often live longer than  a single student's
> entire tenure at the University...

this  probably  applies more  to  engineering  and science  faculties,
rather than design and arts.  in the latter, being capable to envision
large  projects yourself  and establish  a platform  for collaboration
with  others  is a  crucial  skill  that  will empower  the  students'
professional future.  i'm still surprised how often graduated students
have  little experience  in team  working, still  believing it  can be
fruitful to use some of the time of a BA or MA to learn that.

> Science(TM)  tends to  be a  bit more  difficult and  elongated than
> sitting down to write some straightforward program.  Often you don't
> even know if  what you're attempting is possible,  or will work well
> at all.  If it's straightforward for a student to sit down and write
> the program in  a few months, it's probably  not very interesting or
> relevant...

agree. of course  it should include involvement of  other students and
professors and aim at some  consistent innovation, especially for a MA
course, students should be able to  achieve that. as when you enroll a
PhD you need to have already  a project outline for your study period,
in  a MA  course some  time  can be  dedicated in  outlining it  under
guidance and confrontation with other students.

the point can  be defined along the coop/collab  binomial: i find this
paper   by  Ted   Paniz  a   pretty   good  insight   on  the   topic
http://home.capecod.net/~tpanitz/tedsarticles/coopdefinition.htm

ciao


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