[LAD] Impro-Visor packages now on SF

[Ralf Mardorf]

laseray at gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday 26 July 2009 10:04:27 you wrote:
>   
>> laseray at gmail.com wrote:
>>     
>>> I wanted to cooperate with people, but it was just too difficult for them
>>> to admit being wrong.
>>>       
>> Hardened fronts needs to calm down and then to find a way out the tight
>> corner. Everybody needs a chance, otherwise he might do everything
>> without publishing anything and one day there will be a program nobody
>> really can prove used FLOSS code.
>>     
>
> More than a year of chances are more than enough. You cannot continually
> give people chances forever when it is obvious they just don't want to do
> the right thing.
>
> It may not matter if that guy changes things (e.g., license) once there is a
> fork. It is not as if other people cannot write code you know. The currently
> available source code is starter material for that.
>
> I wish people would think over what has already been written about this
> topic before they respond.
>
> People should not remain ever patient with those who act improperly.
> At some point you just have to act, not wait on the side until someone
> else gives you the okay. Imagine how much in this world would not
> get done if we all waited for others to smarten up. You give people
> a chance, then when they don't come through just get to it. That
> is what has happened here. Tune into that facts, please.
>
> Raymond

I understand your view, especially because I unchecked receiving mails, 
when there was such a discussion because of Beatmachine Pro in the LMMS 
dev mailing list. I called the one who used the LMMS source code and 
sold "his" software a thief and liar. He always promised that he never 
sold Beatmachine Pro, now the program is dead, but

"Beat Machine Pro is no longer for sale. If you are an existing user, 
this site will remain here so that you can access help articles and 
support."

maybe he sold some software.

I once asked a German guy who stands for the GPL questions by email that 
never were answered. There's a German book I never read: 
http://www.oreilly.de/german/freebooks/gplger/

"Unwirksamkeit der Klauseln Ziffer 11 und 12 GPL nach deutschem Recht 
138" vague translated: "legal ineffectiveness of some terms by the 
German law" but in addition in Germany we have a copyright law, that 
protects some issues even without marking work with a copyright note.

By moral you are right, but by some laws you might only attain one's 
ends by diplomacy. Dunno. And I'm not diplomatic too.

Ralf