[LAD] Background on the Impro-Visor project

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Mon Jul 27 19:20:48 UTC 2009


Hi Thorsten :)

please note that Bob subscribed to the list, because of my mail. Do you 
know that I'm not a FLOSS coder? I'll be quiet now, but I'll remark that 
even if my English is broken, I do understand what I read. Pleas do not 
only read the words, also take care of the context, what's between the 
lines.

Btw., an example for a split project is http://ichthyostega.de/cin3/, I 
never heard that any distro has problems because of this, but yes, 
everything comes with individual advantages and disadvantages. If Bob 
won't open the project, then Raymond's project will be the only one. Am 
I wrong?

Cheers,
Ralf

Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 19:10 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>   
>> Hi Bob :)
>>
>> Robert Keller wrote:
>>     
>>> However, I don't feel that I  
>>> am obligated to accept every suggestion that someone makes about  
>>> software that is my own.
>>>       
>> You used GPL stuff without accepting the GPL? Less people understand the 
>> GPL completely, but c'mon you're an academic. Maybe you are obligated by 
>> ethics to share your own software with other people who make it possible 
>> for you by their own, but libre and open sourced software or even people 
>> that never did anything for you.
>>     
>
> That's not at all what he said.
>
> Ralf: seeing your obvious problems with (English) reading comprehension
> - not for the first time - I must say the best you could do is to keep
> out of this.
>
>
>   
>>> I have contacted sourceForge  
>>> about his posting of sources relating to the project, and they  
>>> suggested filing a copyright infringement (the project is copyright by  
>>> me and Harvey Mudd College).
>>>       
>
> Mr. Keller: Either the code is GPL and redistribution is allowed, or it
> isn't GPL and therefore would break the GPL license of another project,
> if I got that part of this thread right.
>
>
>   
>> You don't want that Raymond does forge his own version of Impro-Visor? 
>> Why not? I can't see any damage by doing this.
>>     
>
> Possible reasons:
> - duplication/waste of effort
> - making things harder for users and distributors, having to look into
> the differences and implications
> - emotional attachment due to long and hard work
> - not wanting to see credit given to the forker standing on _his_
> shoulders
>
> Those who don't write and release code should be very careful when
> discussing such issue with those who do.
>
>
>   
>>> a lot of the thinking that went into the project is  
>>> that of me and my students.
>>>   
>>>       
>> And also by some GPL coders.
>>
>> You won't share your knowledge?
>>     
>
> Another thing that wasn't said / doesn't follow. Cut it out, please.
>
>
>   

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