[LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

[Jörn Nettingsmeier]

laseray at gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday 27 July 2009 14:33:30 Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
>
>> as to communication skills, raymond, i think you should go get a nice
>> cup of coffee, tone down a bit, see what happens. this bears all the
>> hallmarks of a excuse my french pissing contest, which might be
>> explained by the history of your mutual correspondence, but from the
>> outside, it looks like no big deal at all, and should sort itself out
>> nicely.
> 
> I can agree with almost everything else written in this post, but get off
> the attitude train people. It is not necessary to be nice all the time.

no, but it helps. particularly if/when you assume the role of a project
leader. i have no idea what makes you so irritable n- just kick back and
relax.

for us, a fork is something natural and no big deal at all. i guess you
are just trying to make a point. perfectly valid reason for forking.

for somebody who is not accultured to the open source ways and customs
(as in, "look, it's free, let's use it"), a fork must feel like a
threat. it's easy to clarify that misconception, and will lead to an
altogether more productive outcome.

being accused of license violation (no matter how valid) is certainly
something that will drive most people into a defensive position. you
have a point, but i think with a little more ease the whole thing
wouldn't have escalated to "tell X he's violating the gpl"-style
discussions, which, frankly, is ridiculous.

> And you are right. this is really not that big of a deal. Others are blowing
> it out of proportion to reality. Nothing illegal, immoral, or unethical is
> happening by the existence of a fork. In fact, a fork does not exist yet, only
> the same packages as on the Yahoo group, minus the GPL violations.
> It would have been very easy to do the right thing from the start. But
> that is the responsibility of others.

why not just quietly smile to yourself with the warm fuzzy feeling of
being right?
without snide remarks for a week or so, everybody will beget a hundred
projects and live happily ever after.

and now grandfather must retire to bed.