[LAD] Impro-Visor created on sourceforge

laseray at gmail.com laseray at gmail.com
Wed Jul 29 00:41:58 UTC 2009


On Tuesday 28 July 2009 19:56:34 you wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:36 PM, <laseray at gmail.com> wrote:
>

> Your goal of GPL compliance is a noble one, and entirely correct. But
> ... your tactics have become are really offensive to more and more of
> us, and to claim that you take inspiration from Stallman, the FSF or
> groups like the SFLC is worse still. Stallman is a master at a certain
> kind of humor, and he uses sardonic wit and sharp analogy to leverage
> his position infinitely more often than he resorts to childish put
> downs ... "you are a mental midget" is grade school material and
> serves to discredit this community in many different ways.

That is funny because it is very convenient how you have taken it out of
context. My words are poison, yet others insulting me is okay.

> But your communication skills as demonstrated on this mailing list,
> and in the emails with Robert Keller that you posted, mark you in ways
> that I suspect you don't want to be marked.

Actually, you are wrong. For I do not care. Similar things have happened
with other nasty people that take themselves too seriously, yet I am
able to work on other projects with developers without problems. It is
just this particular situation. You all impute way too much into what you
think I am about. It is all words. I think many need to learn to lighten up,
because it sure seems they are not nearly as tolerant as they believe
themselves to be.

> I can say with certainty that there are several developers on this list who
> would refuse to work with you on projects because of your behaviour here.
> You probably believe that you can live with that, given the nobility of your
> cause and some community of other people that you think might help you with
> whatever work you want to accomplish with Impro-Visor. I certainly hope that
> is true, because it looks like an interesting and potentially powerful
> program. Unfortunately, your communication style has likely poisoned a good
> part of the potential community of interest in ways that make its
> development less likely to evolve more rapidly as a result of its (eventual)
> compliance with the GPL. 
> You are responsible for that, nobody else. Whether you like it or not, or
> believe us all to be mental midgets or some other put down that you
> dredge up in a further response, your emails over the last 36 hours
> make it far more likely that Keller and his group, not you, will get
> whatever cooperation might be forthcoming from other people here. And
> you are responsible for that too. Sleep well.

I have only gotten started. Wait and see.

Again, it is funny how YOU take things out of context. I was referring to one
person, not everybody. This is a general problem I see in the way other 
communicate. They assume you are talking to them, when you are not.
That is a real left brain thing where people read text, but cannot understand
context, a right brain thing (it happens all the time in the way people reply
to emails).

You also seem to be assuming feeling by others and results that are very
unlikely. People forget things after a while and it is a known phenomena that
these little incidents on these projects are overlooked when progress is made.  
You may want to read up on this sort of thing. I have seen this sort of thing 
first hand. Later users/developers coming along won't know anything about
this stuff and will choose what looks best to them. So much for your theory of
how things will turn out.

And I always sleep great, thanks. I mean, do you honestly think I feel in the
smallest bit bad? Not at all. I have caused a result, which is more than
anyone else here has done. Why would I feel bad when I know that there are
many positive things that could happen, not this bleak projection you have
given based on viewing some little arguments in a bad light.

Raymond










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