[LAD] twice as loud

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Sun Jul 25 11:39:12 UTC 2010


On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 13:28 +0200, Robin Gareus wrote:
> On 07/25/2010 12:43 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> > Just one question. Am I the only one who received a mail similar to this
> > off-list:
> > 
> >>> [ yet more irrelvant mindless crap! ]
> >>>
> >>> How does the external ear exactly work? Perhaps it's part of this
> >>> function, to reflect sound.
> >>
> >> Absolutely nothing to do with Linux Audio Development Ralf, ... please
> > desist.
> > 
> > I sometimes receive mails off-list abusing me for mails other people did
> > wrote.
> > Here I did wrote this mail, but as a reply to this topic. So please, if
> > you don't like me folks, abuse me for stuff that were my crime.
> 
> 
> Hi Ralph,
> 
> Why are you writing to me? It might imply I did send you this email in
> the first place.

I only send it to the list, but nobody else. IMPORTANT. It's true Robin
isn't the author.

I read your whole mail Robin, but I just wish to clarify this right now.

Ralf

> Even though I did not, I concur with the original
> author although I'd like to phrase it differently:
> 
> Please ask only Linux audio hw/sw development related questions here.
> When answering, please stick to your expertise. Stop guessing,
> brainstorming and spreading FUD.
> 
> Joern formulated this once like this:
>   /* before sending mail */
>   if (i_know_what_im_talking_about()) {
>     send();
>   } else {
>     discard();
>     sleep(3600);
>   }
> 
> Some of your comments or OT discussions would have been better on LAU
> (where most of the Devs are subscribed as well). I fail to see how you
> are involved in developing any linux-audio application, so please
> refrains from posting here.
> 
> As you can read on the description at http://linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/
> "The linux-audio developer (LAD) mailing list is the place to discuss
> and share in depth information concerning design, development and
> architecture of linux audio related Hard- and Software. It's a fun place
> to lure and learn. yet, take your time and think before posting there:
> This is not the list to report generic linux audio bugs to developers."
> 
> 
> Replying to your own emails N times and doing so quite often is not only
> very bad netiquette, but annoying to many serious contributors here. If
> you can't resist: write a blog.
> 
> Let me repeat an earlier advice which seems to have not sunken in:
> Please read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> in particular don't skip the "A wrong but authoritative-sounding answer
> is worse than none at all." section.
> and from http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 aka "Netiquette Guidelines":
> "If you are caught in an argument, keep the discussion focused on
> issues rather than the personalities involved."
> 
> 
> To answer your question:
> The list-admin for this email-list is Marc-Olivier Barre and he can be
> reached at linux-audio-dev-owner at lists.linuxaudio.org
> If you want find out if an email went to the list, check the
> list-archive: http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
> 
> ..or simply the email-header because IIRC the list does not accept
> emails to it when it has been BCCed.
> 
> ciao,
> robin





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