[LAD] [LAU] So what do you think sucks about Linux audio ?

Michael Bechard gothmagog at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 6 18:53:29 UTC 2013


Yeah, I posted that before I read the rest of the conversation around that topic. Good points.

Michael




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 From: Gabbe Nord <gabbe.nord at gmail.com>
To: Michael Bechard <gothmagog at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Devin Anderson <surfacepatterns at gmail.com>; Dave Phillips <dlphillips at woh.rr.com>; "linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org" <linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org>; "linux-audio-dev at lists.linuxaudio.org" <linux-audio-dev at lists.linuxaudio.org> 
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Like said before, I think alot of user feedback could be gained if just there was a simple way to do it, and people got reminded.


On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Michael Bechard <gothmagog at yahoo.com> wrote:

I second the frustration on a lack of user feedback...
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>Michael
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> From: Devin Anderson <surfacepatterns at gmail.com>
>To: Dave Phillips <dlphillips at woh.rr.com> 
>Cc: linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org; linux-audio-dev at lists.linuxaudio.org 
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>Hi Dave,
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>On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips at woh.rr.com> wrote:
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>> Not enough native plugins, esp. instruments.
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>I think this is one of the key problems with Linux audio.  Part of the
>problem is that there is no clear mechanism for (non-developer) users
>to create their own instruments.  Many VSTs are constructed with
>modular DSP programs like synthedit and flowstone (formerly
>synthmaker).  There's probably an opportunity here for Ingen or a new
>graphical DSP program based on Faust to fill this hole.
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>In general, I think that Linux audio has a lot of tools that help
>users to create music, but not a lot of tools that help users create
>their own tools (e.g. instruments, plugins, sample libraries, etc.) to
>help others to create music.
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>On the development side, I think Aurélien
 and others like him have the
>right idea in taking instruments/plugins that are specific to a Linux
>audio application and porting them to LV2.  There's a lot of awesome
>instruments that are specific to applications (e.g. ALSA Modular
>Synth, LMMS, etc.) that would generally be more useful if they were
>LV2 plugins.
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>> Poor external/internal session management.
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>Interacting with external hardware can be frustrating.  Commercial
>programs like Renoise account for external hardware in their workflows
>(e.g. latency management, MIDI clock, MMC, etc.).  Most Linux Audio
>apps don't do this.
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>> Too much conflict/fragmentation within the development community.
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>I've been trying to write something about conflict and fragmentation
>for the past 10 minutes.  I think this is a complex issue.  I'm not
>able to find the words to communicate about it right now.
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>> So, in your honest
 and bold opinion as user and/or developer, what do we
>> lack most and what can we do without that we already have ?
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>As a developer, I'm missing a couple things:
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>1.) User feedback.
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>I can't stress this enough.  I watch the download counts increase on
>the applications I create, but I hardly ever get feedback.  I'm
>discouraged and frustrated by the lack of feedback.
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>2.) Non-code developers
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>We have a lot of dedicated open source developers writing Linux audio
>apps, plugins, etc., but I have yet to meet an open source UI
>designer, or an open source graphic artist.  I think a lot of the apps
>we create could benefit from the feedback of a user interface
>experience expert.
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>There's probably more, but these are the two things that occur to me now.
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>Dave, this is an important topic.  Thanks for taking it on.
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>psinsights - http://psinsights.googlecode.com/
>synthclone - http://synthclone.googlecode.com/
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