[linux-audio-user] Reading/playing a "copy protected" CD : cdparanoia seems not to help

[Jan Depner]

On Mon, 2004-06-28 at 08:48, Chris Pickett wrote:
> Jan Depner wrote:
> > On Mon, 2004-06-28 at 02:46, Anahata wrote:
> > 
> >>On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 12:35:03AM +0300, Sampo Savolainen wrote:
> >>
> >>>you could try to find a CD player
> >>>with spdif output and, presuming you have spdif input on your computer,
> >>>record the data digitally from a normal player.
> >>
> >>The possibility of doing this (I assume copy protected CDs can't prevent
> >>it, if they can be played at all) is one more thing that makes a
> >>mockery of the whole business of copy protection.
> > 
> > 
> > 	What really makes a mockery of the copy protection racket is what the
> > RIAA calls the "analog hole".  If I can hear it, I can copy it.  Find a
> > CD player that can handle the chewed up CD, run the analog outs to your
> > computer, record it.  I seriously doubt that there is anyone around who
> > can tell the difference between a digitally ripped copy and a digitally
> > encoded analog copy.  
> 
> I can tell the difference, if it's not done properly, and it isn't 
> entirely trivial to do it properly.  For starters, you need a decent 
> soundcard ... I've tried the stereo mini-in jack on this laptop and also 
> on a couple of other older motherboards / soundblasters and the quality 
> is _nowhere_ near the quality I get out of the VXpocket v2 with balanced 
> inputs, and even that's probably at the lower end of the "prosumer" 
> range.  Non-sound people I know can immediately tell the difference too. 
>   I've heard enough badly ripped vinyl recordings that I don't really 
> trust the general populace to make analog-to-digital encodings of any 
> work.  Admittedly there are more complex factors involved with vinyl 
> than with CD's, but if it's any indication ...
> 

	You're missing the point; I have no problem doing it correctly, I have
a pro soundcard, and it only takes one person ;-)  After that it's all
digital.

Jan