[linux-audio-user] VST Plugins Revisited (Again)

Shayne O'Connor forums at machinehasnoagenda.com
Fri Aug 5 18:03:53 EDT 2005


Brad Fuller wrote:
> Shayne O'Connor wrote:
> 
>> definitely not ... you're gonna be in for a lot of frustration if you 
>> take this approach. it is the approach i took when first using linux 
>> audio - the first step for a windows convert is always to try getting 
>> every program they used on windows to work on linux. bit of advice - 
>> stop this quest now, and get hip with linux audio apps.
> 
> 
> It's not using the plugins you're used to  ... it's a matter of finding 
> the right tool for the job. I'm happy to switch and I switch around all 
> the time. The plugins available on Mac and Windows (or just mac, or just 
> windows) are just not as extensive, or as deep on Linux. The Wave Gold 
> package alone has probably more plugins than all of LADSPA combined (ok, 
> don't quote me... I didn't count them -- just making a point) and they 
> are very good.
> 
> There are no apps like Acid, Reason, Kontakt, Absynth, etc. on linux. 

> I'm not suggesting that there be Linux clones. I'm just trying to say 
> that Linux just doesn't have the application breadth of the other two OSs.
> 
> I don't think this is in dispute.
> 
> leonard "paniq" ritter wrote:
> 
>> what linux requires most is documentation and user sites. once people 
>> find solutions to their problems and answers to their questions, if 
>> you have answers, it doesnt matter how hard the system is. the concept 
>> of wikis is rather young, so i see the use of linux drastically 
>> increasing in the next years.
>>
> 
> Documentation would definitely help, that's for sure. But, it 
> secondary.. the tools need to be available in the first place.
> 
> What we need is for NI or Waves or <fill in here> to produce their wares 
> for Linux. (please don't throw anything at me.)
> I don't think the competition will hurt FOSS but only encourage better 
> and better linux audio software -- free or for cost.
> 
> leonard "paniq" ritter wrote:
> 
>> to support your point, paul (which i find amusing), i wonder why 
>> someone would insist on using VST binaries. most of them are unstable 
>> and each one has its own interpretation of what the standard looks 
>> like. the result is a lot of hacked win32 hosts that most of the time 
>> only run 80% of all available plugins.
>>
> They fool around with WINE/etc because the VSTs get the job done. I'm 
> sure if they found a tool on Linux that could do the job, they'd use 
> it... or at least, I would.
> 
> I'm with Dave:
> "I find it more astonishing than amusing" that the windows VSTs work at 
> all!


hmmm .... i find it astonishing that you're using linux!

;)

shayne



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