[linux-audio-user] QJackCtl window position consistency?

[pirrone]

Rick Wright wrote:
> Lee Revell wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 16:00 -0500, Rick Wright wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> Lee Revell wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>> On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 14:46 -0500, Rick Wright wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>> Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>       
>>>>>> Rick Wright wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>> I'd like the qjackctl windows (i.e. the control window, 
>>>>>>> messages, connections, status) to open for a subsequent 
>>>>>>> executation in the same screen locations as I had them at 
>>>>>>> shutdown from the last execution.  Is this possible?  I can't 
>>>>>>> seem to find an option for this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All (and only those) windows that were visible from the previous 
>>>>>>> execution do indeed appear on the subsequent application run 
>>>>>>> (which is good), but the window positioning appears to be 
>>>>>>> forgotten.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rui, if this is not currently supported, would it be possible to 
>>>>>>> add this feature?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>> Window positioning persistence is already featured and is default 
>>>>>> behavior, for quite some time. AFAICS its been ever since ;). 
>>>>>> Problem is that behavior may vary, with some glitches depending 
>>>>>> on your particular WM. It is well known, at least to me, that 
>>>>>> window positions aren't remembered very well if you stick to use 
>>>>>> the WM close button on those window titles, usually the ones 
>>>>>> labeled as [X]. OTOH if you use qjackctl main window control 
>>>>>> buttons, to toggle child window visibility and to quit 
>>>>>> application, all seems to work just fine ;) or so I believe and 
>>>>>> been told.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>         
>>>>> I am finding inconsistency in the window positioning persistence.  
>>>>> Sometimes the windows appear in the same position, sometimes they 
>>>>> don't.  This has been tested using only the QJC main window 
>>>>> control buttons as recommended above.
>>>>>
>>>>> Leaving the windows open (only testing using 4 of them: main, 
>>>>> status, messages, connections) upon shutdown (quit on main window) 
>>>>> and restarting QJC sometimes gives the same locations and 
>>>>> sometimes not, but it seems that the windows don't like the 
>>>>> presence of other windows (i.e. an xterm from which to start QJC!) 
>>>>> and the most prevalent offender is the main window.  Actually, it 
>>>>> seems that upon the first restart of QJC, the positions are 
>>>>> remembered, but without moving any windows, a second quit/restart 
>>>>> results in some windows appearing cascaded from the top left of 
>>>>> the desktop.  Window sizes are always remembered.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone else reproduce this?
>>>>>  
>>>>>       
>>>> What desktop environment and window manager are you using and which
>>>> version?
>>>>
>>>> Lee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>> Reply try #3.....
>>>
>>> Running an up-to-date FC4/GNOME (2.6.10) system.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>   
>>
>> OK, I just reproduced this on my Ubuntu Breezy system, Gnome 2.12.0.  If
>> I run qjackctl, open the Messages window, move it, open the Connect
>> window, move that, then close the main window by clicking the X, next
>> time I run it the Messages window has moved back to where it started.
>>
>> Surely this is a WM bug, the app can't be responsible for remembering
>> the position of its windows?
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> Rui seemed to indicate that if you close those windows by toggling the 
> associated button on the main window (rather than the X as you did) 
> that the positions should persist.  For me, they all do *except* the 
> messages window.  That doesn't seem like a WM bug to me.
>
> Try this: open the app, open the message and status windows and move 
> them somewhere.  Then, simply toggle the buttons and see where they 
> reappear.
>
> I just tried this again with the patchbay window (my first test with 
> patchbay)  and it shows the same non-persistence behavior as the 
> messages window.
>
> As far as closing the app with the quit button and then restarting, 
> the results are mixed as I described above.  It seems that the window 
> positions persist (mostly) upon the first restart, but without moving 
> any windows, a subsequent quit/restart seems to lose window position 
> information.  This seems app related too, no?
>
> Rick
>
>
Rick et al.,

Been off doing some Web work but glad to see this thread working its way 
along.  Here's my latest results with your latest scenario:

Open QJC, open Messages and Status, observe they open right where I set 
them when I first tested and replied to your posting, move them around, 
toggle those two windows with their respective buttons and they persist 
right where I just moved/left them.  Rinse, repeat... works as expected.

Same with Patchbay.

Then, I closed down QJC with those windows still opened and re-launched 
it to find the windows in the same place they were when I closed it.

Then, I closed down QJC with those windows toggled closed and 
re-launched it to find that when I toggled the windows back open they 
were in the same place I left them when I toggled them off before 
closing QJC.

So, Fedora Core 3 fully updated with CCRMA and all core apps, Fluxbox 
0.9.13, QJackCtl 0.2.15 results in the expected behavior.

Frank