[linux-audio-user] Ardour and Linux Audio presentation

R Parker rtp405 at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 9 11:41:57 EST 2005

--- Jan Depner <eviltwin69 at cableone.net> wrote:

> One of the coolest things you can do with Ardour and
> JAMin is to run
> mixing and mastering at the same time.  Start Ardour
> and JAMin, route
> your Ardour master bus out to JAMin's inputs, route
> JAMin's outs back to
> a new stereo track in Ardour.

or to a stereo bus which eliminates two steps;
realtime record pass and subsequent export. Or is that
one step... :) precoffee letters reveal my stupidity.

  You can tweak single
> tracks and the
> mastering controls at the same time.  Even if you
> don't run the JAMin
> outs back to Ardour you can still check out the
> mastered sound and be
> able to adjust single tracks.  I don't know if
> there's any combination
> of apps that will do this on Windows or Mac.  Once
> the OSC stuff is
> working well you'll be able to automatically queue
> scene changes from
> Ardour to JAMin.  Ron Parker has been testing this
> and I don't know
> where it stands at the moment.

The LADSPA OSC plugin JAMin Controler is working. This
implementation is probably proof of concept. Ardour is
slated to have internal OSC at some point. That and
some other fixes and features will make the strategy
competitive with the best available solutions. I'm
talking about shit that costs $10,000.00.

I've explained a concept of Chunks to Paul Davis that
would enable us to manage multitrack sources for many
songs. Multitrack source mastering currently is proof
of concept because mastering is about controling the
loudness of many songs and not one song. We handle one
multitrack source very well right now. I need to file
a feature request in mantis that explains the idea in
greater detail. What we have today with multitrack
source capabilities and OSC demonstrates that JACK,
Ardour and JAMin combined do what no other tool set

Multitrack mastering is fine and dandy but the JAMin
part of mastering a well produced mix is a 30 second
job. So stereo files are fine if the work is high

The remaining weakness is in producing the Table of
Contents for the CD and freewheel export direct to CD.
The Ardour locations interface is the key to that
realm. It's been discussed but a mantis feature
request is probably a good idea.

The above concepts when properly implemented will
enable engineers to focus on musicians and producers
rather than production details. It's a very important

I used to have Ardour mixing and mixing mastering demo
sessions but they are probably trash by now. I'm
working on new materials. I recently hired a
professional video producer and camera person and
filmed a very nice production in my studio using
Ardour. These materials are a replacement for the book
I started in 2001 but can't stand to work on. All of
this is intended to be mulitimedia presentation for
audio engineering and production.

Anyways, I'll shutup before ramblings drift way out to
topics like fishing and sexual kinks or the first
lunar launch.


> Jan
> On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 13:38, Jon Morin wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I have been asked to give a mini-seminar and live
> demonstration later
> > this year on Ardour and Linux audio applications
> to the audio
> > engineering students at the university that I work
> for.  I plan to do
> > a general overview of Linux with some diagrams and
> web links for
> > further reading, some info about applications
> available, and supported
> > hardware.
> > 
> > Next, I will give a live demo of a session in the
> recording studio at
> > the university.  I'll bring in my computer, and
> set it up next to the
> > ProTools machine that they are used to using,
> connect it to the
> > projector so they all can see what I'm doing, and
> basically do a
> > simple recording and mixing session with Ardour.
> > 
> > The point is these students work with nice,
> expensive hardware and
> > ProTools on a nice fast Macintosh computer in the
> studio, but when the
> > class ends, many will want to continue their work
> in the home studio
> > environment, and the director there wants me to
> present Linux as an
> > affordable and stable alternative for pro audio
> work (as opposed to
> > students having to buy ProTools, Sonar, Reason, or
> whatever) to get
> > some decent work done.
> > 
> > I plan on having someone videorecord the
> presentation and demo, and if
> > it comes out any good, I'll make up DVD's and
> distribute them to
> > whomever wants one for the cost of the media and
> shipping.
> > 
> > Any ideas on stuff to include, or how to make this
> a killer
> > presentation?  BTW, sorry to cross-post, but I
> felt that this
> > pertained to both the Ardour group and the LAU
> folks (many who are on
> > both lists).  I'm just overjoyed that I will get
> to show this stuff
> > and hopefully convert a few users :)  I'm also
> thinking about burning
> > off a bunch of copies of the various audio-focused
> distros to hand out
> > at the seminar.
> > 
> > Jon M.

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