[linux-audio-user] yet more music

james at dis-dot-dat.net james at dis-dot-dat.net
Sat Jul 9 13:39:26 EDT 2005


On Sat, 09 Jul, 2005 at 01:45PM -0400, Dave Phillips spake thus:
> james at dis-dot-dat.net wrote:
> 
> >On Sat, 09 Jul, 2005 at 11:07AM -0400, Dave Phillips spake thus:
> > 
> >
> >>Someone else mentioned that the guitar sounds too clean. I'd say its 
> >>problem is its lack of expressive technique, it's a major problem for 
> >>any sequenced guitar tracks. The guitar is normally played in such a way 
> >>that most notes receive some sort of expression from the player, usually 
> >>a finger vibrato or some other slight pitch variation (bends, 
> >>glissandi). These articulations aren't impossible to program, but they 
> >>do take time and detailed effort to make the part sound realistic. Of 
> >>course, if you're not going for realism there's no problem. :)
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >I have a track called creamcheese
> >(http://dis-dot-dat.net/content/music/creamcheese.ogg) in which I
> >tried this.  I like the sound, but it was fiddly.  Have a listen, it's
> >towards the end, when the guitar starts to bend (try 3m30s).
> >
> Yes, I've listened to this piece already. Sweetly done, and I say again 
> that your mixing is very nicely done.

Ta.
 
> The guitar sounds more natural up to the point of the bends. To my ears 
> the pitch bends result in a sound more akin to the pedal steel than to 
> the regular 6-string electric. It's a little too smooth to sound like a 
> fretted instrument or even a slide guitar. Perhaps the p-bend resolution 
> should be coarser ? Just a thought...

I don't intend to go back to improve the authenticity of that track,
but it's something worth keeping in mind.

> Like I said, really convincing results are tough to achieve for 
> instruments like the guitar or an alto sax. Each note gets some kind of 
> micro-expression, it's the despair of those of us who occasionally aim 
> towards the realistic effect.

I tend to steer clear of wind instruments - they just nerver sound
right unless they are real.  

> [re: Blatter book]
> 
> >Just checking amazon - do you mean A. Blatter?
> >
> That's the one. Sorry, I'm not at my place, didn't check the author on 
> the 'zon.

Ouch - 37 GBP on amazon.  Although, when the site comes back up I
think I've found a copy for a tenner somewhere else.

> So, more music, si vous il plait. :-)

I think I'm all creative'd out at the moment.  I tend to work in fits
and starts, with large spaces of barren imagination.

James

> Best,
> 
> dp
> 
> 
> 

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