[linux-audio-user] Ardour and Editing

[Mike Jewell]

On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 14:35 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:


> 
> some people point out that audacity/rezound/sweep/snd are way more
> advanced than anything we could do in any reasonable time. in fact, as
> you point out:
> 
> > [...] Audacity which, though very limited in many of the features
> > that make Ardour so powerful, is a very powerful and intuitive sound
> > file editor for many of the basic editing jobs you end up doing after
> > the musicians have gone home and you are stuck with what you recorded.
> 
> and if you tried snd, your mind might melt down as you began to
> understand what it could do :)

I'll do it.  Thanks for the pointer.

> 
> > For instance, you need to amplify a small section of a track (more than
> > the 12 dB you can get with Ardour's envelope and mixer gains).  Or you
> 
> you might want to check out the contex menu for regions and its
> "normalize" option.
> 
Yes, that probably solves the amplify need.  

> > First of all, (please correct me if I'm wrong) Ardour says it is trying
> > to be a Pro-Tools type application but I can't imagine that Pro-Tools
> > doesn't have built-in sound file editing.
> 
> it does, but compared to soundforge or bias peak or even cooledit, it
> sucks eggs. and since we're not here to try to make lots of money and
> lock you into our tools, it doesn't make much sense to to compete with
> existing editors.

That is very educational for me.  (Isn't almost everything?   8^)    )
> 
> the preferred solution is to see ardour be able to fork off your
> preferred editor to work on a given region. this will be implemented
> post-2.0.

Yes, I did read about that in one of the feature requests in Mantis.  I
agree with your logic as long as the various tools can be made to work
well together.
> 
> for now, to do something vaguely equivalent, context-click on a region
> and select "export". edit the resulting file, reimport it into ardour. 
> not very convenient as far as workflow, hence our other plans.

That's what I've been doing but it's a pain since Jack grabs my sound
card and so Audacity can't use it unless I stop Jack.  Maybe there is
some way for Jack and Non-JACK-aware apps to share a sound card.  I'm
quite un-knowledgeable in that area.

Also, when exporting, editing, importing like that should I use a larger
number sample format (24 bit or 32 bit) to avoid losing information?

Thanks again all who replied.

Mike
Mike Jewell
One-Up Audio