[linux-audio-user] Skype and internet jamming/podcasting

[Mark Constable]

Steve Harris wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 08:10:51 +1000, Mark Constable wrote:
>>Using it for interviews for podcasting is also an
>>almost mandatory requirement but until someone works
>>out how to record both ends of the conversation at
>>the same time it's hardly worth the effort. It's the
>>same issue for doing live jams... or at least would
>>be all much easier to manage if using AND recording
>>both sides of the discussion/jam, all at the same
>>time, was feasible.
> 
> You can do it with JACK, just mix in each stage of the jam, and forward on
> the mix the next studio:
> 
> studio A ----> voip ---> mix+voip ---> studio C (endpoint + record)
> (source)                    ^
>                             |
>                          studio B

Thanks but in the case of a simple two ended voice comms,
where one end is me with an SBlive, the other end only gets
an echo of their own voice and cannot hear me. I can hear
them, and their echo, just fine.

The "other end" in my case are professional people who do
not use linux and the perception on follow-up landline calls
is that when they know I am using linux on my end the response
is "hey pal, get a real computer and don't waste my time".

Which leaves me in an embarrasing position and also with no
one on the other end patient enough to give me feedback when
I try to tweak alsamixer to find the right comdination.
Sure I could use 2 computers, 2 headsets and 4 ears to try
and work out the right alsamixer combo but I still have to
deal with the same clueless person to try and work thru all
the combinations on both ends.

To Mario, yes I know skype is "evil" like mp3 but there are
too many "buts" already. iPods won't play ogg content and
most VoIP users do not run linux. It's a sad thing on both
counts but that's life so if I want to interact with "most
people" I have to bend my own rules... or not play at all.

As for real-time jamming, I can't imagine it being feasible
in any useful way other than proofing tracks... as in side
A plays composition, side B records it then adds extra
content while side A then records that combination, then
after that is recorded, said A adds their bit to the mix,
which side B then records, and on it goes ping-pong fashion.

Is their a kind and patient LAU user out there somewhere
who would be interested in trying some skype tests ?

--markc