[linux-audio-user] Bass V-amp vs V-amp

Cesare Marilungo cesare at poeticstudios.com
Thu Aug 10 14:25:41 EDT 2006


If the soundcard preamp are good enough and your soundcard has an HI-Z 
switch (my Edirol UA-25 has both) I would remove even the mixing console 
from your setup.

The best results are achieved with a clean unprocessed signal (don't 
even eq it) to be captured by the soundcard, and then applying digital 
effects inside the DAW.

If your soundcard can record at 24bit and you store your WAVs at this 
resolution you can even go without a compressor/limiter before entering 
the soundcard. 24bit resolution is enough to preserve dynamics even if 
you record at a safe level and then compress your track digitally.

If the soundcard latency is low enough you can even listen to the 
processed signal (like some compression, for the bass) while recording 
(Ardour for instance can do that).

Just my thoughts,

c.

Jean-Baptiste Mestelan wrote:

> I wondered if I such a  DI box would make sense in my recording setup :
> bass ---> mixing console ---> soundcard
>
> How useful would it be to insert a DI  ?
> bass ---> DI --> mixing console ---> soundcard
>
> A guitarist friend of mine has tried to convince me so, but I did not
> exactly grasp the whole argument ... I would have thought that the
> console already serves as a preamp, but I may miss some point ?
>
> Thanks for advice.
>
> On 8/10/06, Paul Coccoli <pcoccoli at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8/9/06, Paul Winkler <pw_lists at slinkp.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 12:37:16PM -0400, Paul Coccoli wrote:
>> > > If I had the money, I'd get a SansAmp Bass Driver DI.  People on
>> > > talkbass.com rave about it.  You need a mic pre (with headphone jack
>> > > in you case) though, as it has an XLR mic output.
>> >
>> > OTOH, having been a bassist for about 25 years now,
>> > I can't stand the SansAmp BDDI. It's not a very "neutral" device -
>> > it has a strong personality, it scoops out vast amounts of
>> > midrange no matter what you do with the tone controls.
>> > For my taste, that is totally wrong.
>> >
>>
>> Hmm, I hadn't heard that.  I've never actually played one.
>>
>> > Lots of people like it... poor lost souls :)
>> >
>> > For going DI, I prefer a decent passive DI followed by
>> > tweaking with plugins if necessary. SC4 is very handy; so is the 
>> 10-band EQ
>> > (I forget which suite that comes from). I also sometimes use
>> > the "tube warmth" or whatever it's called.
>> >
>>
>> I use the DIs in my cheapo M-Audio Audio Buddy.  They sound ok to me,
>> and I like cheap stuff.  The CAPS tube amp sims sound ok on bass, but
>> probably need low-pass filters (or EQ) after them.
>>
>> > I really prefer micing the amp, but I recognize that's not
>> > always doable.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Paul Winkler
>> > http://www.slinkp.com
>> >
>>
>
>


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