[linux-audio-user] Thesis: Playing and making music

Cesare Marilungo cesare at poeticstudios.com
Tue Dec 12 17:13:49 EST 2006

Atte André Jensen wrote:
> Cesare Marilungo wrote:
>> 4' 33" was intended as a performance piece, so the noise made by the 
>> audience emerged as music, probably in a way that automatically 
>> follows certain rules. So it is much more a generative technique than 
>> a provocation.
> I understand that. It's just not music (at least to me)...
In these discussions we have to consider how, when and why we listen to 
what we consider music. And how it was meant to be listened to. 
Obviously, if I have to decide what to put on my mp3 player for a trip 
I'd rather put Miles Davis 'Kind of blue' or, even better, my whole 
collection of the 70ies canterbury scene than John Cage.

Listening to Cage to me is more like reading a book about zen 
philosophy. Nonetheless, I'm listening to a record, or better to a 

Incidentally, Cage works are far more interesting as an artistic 
statement while most popular music act as a way to trigger certain 
emotions (and that's what most call music). The latter is somewhat 
instrumental. I listen to 'Kind of blue' when I want to be consoled, 
when I'm sad. When I'm programming I prefer 'Bitches brew'. :-)

>> That's why a performance of Cage 4' 33" is more musical (and for me 
>> it is art, too) than 4' 33" of any sound whatsoever.
> Ok...


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