[linux-audio-user] ogg for Windows made really easy

Gene Heskett gene.heskett at verizon.net
Sun Jan 15 22:10:53 EST 2006

On Sunday 15 January 2006 20:31, Jan Depner wrote:
>On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 16:34 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
>> On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 15:26 -0600, Jan Depner wrote:
>> > On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 13:18 -0800, Brad Fuller wrote:
>> > > Lee Revell wrote:
>> > > >On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 12:47 -0800, Brad Fuller wrote:
>> > > >>On 11:48 AM Jan Depner wrote:
>> > > >>> I find it amusing that so many people who won't use MP3 due
>> > > >>> to its
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> > "encumbrance" will happily run the proprietary Nvidia
>> > > >>> > driver...
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Is there an alternative to the Nvidia driver? If so, I sure
>> > > >> would like to know what it is!
>> > > >
>> > > >Yes, the open source "nv" driver.  Does not support hardware
>> > > > accelerated 3D, but then again we care more about free
>> > > > software than being able to use every bell and whistle, right?
>> > >
>> > > I care about getting the job done well, first of all. I sure
>> > > would like it to be FOSS, though!
>> > > On my systems, the nvidia driver seems to work better for mpeg2
>> > > than nv. That's why I'm using it. But, it too has problems on
>> > > some older nvidia chipsets.
>> >
>> >     We've been through this before.  If all you have to worry
>> > about is mpeg2 playback you should be able to get by with the nv
>> > driver.  I have extreme 3D requirements (not games) and there is
>> > not a comparable driver of any type for any other card.
>> Yeah sorry I did not want to restart that flame war, I was just
>> trying to illustrate a point...
>    No need to apologize.  I certainly favor your view on this.  I
> just wish there were some way to get a really good, accelerated, open
> 3D driver for some video card.

So do we all, Jan.  In fact, the suits at ati funded an open source 
driver for their better card, what 3 years ago?  Presumably to impress 
us FOSS frogs I think.  It might have been nice, but AIR by the time 
the driver was released, the card on the dealers shelves had a new, 
totally incompatible chipset on it.  A classic case of the boardroom 
not knowing, or careing about, what engineering/production was doing as 
long as sales were steady.  And this was done without changing a single 
character in the artwork of the box.  I even went out and bought the 
supposedly correct driver from some x outfit, but it also wouldn't even 
see the card.  I tried to get a refund but their defense was that I 
still had a copy of the driver, so the charge on my card stood.  At 
that point I returned the card to the vendor I'd bought it from and 
made no attempt to hide the smoke pouring liberally from both ears when 
I did so.  A lot of yelling about false advertising at the time.

But when the nvidia card I'd bought to replace that ati died a year 
later and wiped a mobo doing it, I was so upset with nvidia that 
another ati seemed like the lessor of 2 evils.  And so far, it has 
been.  That knocking sound in the background?  Me, knocking on wood...

And now there is an nvidia card in the rebuilt box out in the shop thats 
running my milling machine.  Damned if I do, and damned if I don't I 

Cheers, Gene
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