[linux-audio-user] OT: POLL: Marketing Free Music

[Cesare Marilungo]

tim hall wrote:

> Cesare Marilungo wrote:

Not me. But Carotinho. :-)

>
>>> But there is something that is not an "arbitrary lines". There are 
>>> absolute values, like importance of human beings etc. You simply 
>>> cannot put these values into discussion, because they are the 
>>> foundation of social living (and not only that...). 
>>
>
> Let me get this right - we are not free to discuss these values?
>
> This is your culturally conditioned assumption, not an absolute. 
> Personally I would probably be happy to hang out on a site where 
> Sexism and Racism are censored, however, this is not Anarchy, this is 
> Socialism. The problem is, that different people have different 
> interpretations of what constitutes 'Racist' or 'Sexist' - I have been 
> accused of Racism for calling my friends 'Pakis' or my brother & 
> sister 'half-caste', which I think has more to do with fashion than 
> human rights. I also call my brother & sister my 'siblings' which is 
> apparently technically incorrect, but, with all due respect you can 
> swivel on my technical incorrectness :) they're MY family. I guess 
> it's all relative . ;p
>
> The new-age idea
>
>>> that "everything is relative" or what else it's spelled in English, 
>>> is not appliable, IMO, to human beings, otherwise everything 
>>> crumbles. This is why there are laws against racism, sexism, 
>>> slavery, violence etc. in all the countries, given that the freedom 
>>> to think differently cannot exceeds the bounds of social livings: 
>>> say what you want, but you ca't do it if it's inhuman. And we have 
>>> to accept that, while conception of mankind etc. can differ from 
>>> culture to culture, those absolute values remains the same.
>>
>
> This is not true.
>
>>> Example: female mutilations in Africa. They are practiced sometimes 
>>> by mothers to their own daughters, since they thinks it's right. 
>>> Should they be _free_ to think, 
>>
>
> I think you've just insulted their culture. Genital mutilation is 
> horrible in my opinion, but how about we consider male circumcision or 
> purdah. Many people make these choices out of free will and from an 
> informed position. What would happen if someone suggested banning 
> these things? They would be accused of Racism.
>
> I'm sure they would recognize that this is a
>
>>> dishuman practice, to be banned as soon as possible, because it goes 
>>> against the simplest idea of human being. They say that they are 
>>> content of these practices? They are, only as we are content when 
>>> people agree with us: that is, we feel that we are well inserted in 
>>> a given community (think of boys that commit crimes in order of 
>>> being accepted by friends etc.). So, it's relativism again, and it 
>>> would destroy itself and the surrounding world: if everything is 
>>> relative, even the idea that everything is relative should be 
>>> relative, so nothing is sure etc. etc:)
>>
>
> I tend to subscribe to the relativistic position. But I'm not sure 
> about that. I defend my and other people's right to make up our own 
> minds on these issues. I'm sure if there was a nice pat solution we'd 
> have given it a decent shot by now.
>
> cheers,
>
> tim hall
>
>
>

c.
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