[linux-audio-user] ?La revoluci?n inform?tica realmente revolucionar? la m?sica? Linux Audio Conference 2007

david gnome at hawaii.rr.com
Fri Mar 30 20:56:44 EDT 2007


Go listen to something you've never listened before. Listen to something 
you've listened to in the past but really really hated - and listen for 
what make you hate it AND for what you like in it.

Go to the country side and listen to spring.

Charles Linart wrote:
> <<..phenomenon I've never experienced before but suddenly find myself
> wrestling with now: no music interests me any more, and everything I
> play sounds to me like completely unengaging, tired old crap.<<
> 
> That must suck.  For me it's about beauty -- music is just one path
> from here to there.
> 
> On 3/30/07, Ken Restivo <ken at restivo.org> wrote:
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>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 06:24:07PM +0200, Malte Steiner wrote:
>> >
>> > >musical elements: rythm, melody, harmony. There is always some
>> > >structure in time, but it's very often just the same: building
>> > >up to a climax.
>> > >
>> > I even missed that in some pieces, a beginning, an end and something in
>> > between. Often pieces sounds static or like a sound demo but no moving
>> > composition. Maybe it is a different school, I could imagine some
>> > reasons to create pieces that static way but it is not my cup of tea.
>> >
>> > About typical sounds, its not Linux related, I made similar 
>> observations
>> > in other electroacoustic events which focused on other systems like 
>> Mac.
>> > There seems to be always the synthesis du jour and suddenly you hear 
>> the
>> > same artefacts everywhere. Maybe its sort of musical standards or riffs
>> > like you have in other genres like Blues. Annoying was the release of
>> > Ableton Live where suddenly every laptopper (what a word but I use it
>> > offending, intentionally) sounds the same and claim to use granular
>> > synthesis which is a joke, granular is much more than a bit studdering
>> > through your properly non original samples.
>> >
>>
>> This is not unique to Linux, or to electronic music, or even to 
>> experimental or "serious" music. How many guitar-rock bands sound 
>> exactly the same? How many DJ's or rappers sound exactly the same? How 
>> many American-Idol-style singers sound exactly the same? Some new tool 
>> or genre comes out, and everyone rushes to it, and thus sounds the 
>> same. Pop music is practically defined by recycling the same sounds 
>> and cliches over and over again. And, as Dave Philips noted, 
>> complaints about experimental music sounding flat or too noisy or 
>> cacophonous or lacking compositional craft, are as old as musique 
>> concrete.
>>
>> It's all just music. Different sounds affect people in different ways. 
>> Sometimes no sounds affect us in any ways... a strange, alien, and 
>> somewhat alarming phenomenon I've never experienced before but 
>> suddenly find myself wrestling with now: no music interests me any 
>> more, and everything I play sounds to me like completely unengaging, 
>> tired old crap.
>>
>> - -ken
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David
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