[LAU] An atrocity committed with PD (MIDI Spec) + (XG)

[chris beagles]

On 9/1/07, chris beagles <christhemonkey at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 9/1/07, thomas fisher <studio1 at commspeed.net> wrote:
>
> > On Friday 31 August 2007 23:52:33 david wrote:
> > > thomas fisher wrote:
> > > > On Friday 31 August 2007 01:09:07 david wrote:
> > > >> Steve McConville wrote:
> > > >>>> I am curious - has there been any move to modernize the MIDI
> > > >>>> connectivity standards to include USB or Ethernet?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There has been - there is a midi over usb standard.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Midi is a poor starting point for modernisation not just beacause
> > of
> > > >>> the pragmatic compromises mentioned above but also because it is
> > > >>> wholly unlayered (the spec covers everything from the physical up
> > to
> > > >>> the presentational layer),
> > > >>
> > > >> That could be separated fairly easily, I'd think.
> > > >>
> > > >>> and has it's expansion room squeezed into
> > > >>> the SysEx ghetto.
> > > >>
> > > >> That's a big problem.
> > > >>
> > > >>> Midi over ethernet would be even less pleasant, and
> > > >>> less logical, than doing RS-232 over ethernet.
> > > >>
> > > >> Only reason I mentioned Ethernet is that there are analog musical
> > > >> instruments around already that can transmit their audio via
> > Ethernet
> > > >> (instead of analog audio cables).
> > > >>
> > > >>> OSC has fixed these problems and should have been built into
> > > >>> everything since the mid-90s but so many people have invested time
> > in
> > > >>> learning MIDI that they wouldn't countenance working with anything
> >
> > > >>> else. It looks like RESTful web services may eventually replace
> > both,
> > > >>> however.
> > > >>
> > > >> I suspect that MIDI won't be budged. It is a standard in the music
> > > >> world, and I doubt that many musicians care about it's limitations.
> > They
> > > >> may not even be aware of them. MIDI certainly keeps time in a lot
> > finer
> > > >> increments than I'm able to play - that's why sequencer programs
> > have
> > > >> quantization functions!
> > > >
> > > > How does the " XG " extension play into this? How proprietary is it?
> > >
> > > I don't know - and each week I play a Yahama PSR-740 keyboard with
> > > Yamaha's XG. I've recorded some MIDIs using it, and they open just
> > fine
> > > in Rosegarden and play in fluidsynth. Or maybe you're talking about
> > > something else?
> >
> > I do not know either, and was asking in the context of the MIDI
> > discussion. I
> > have always assumed that XG was an extension to the standard MIDI
> > specification. And again I always assumed that an interpretative
> > function
> > existed somewhere in software layers either within a driver or in a
> > filter.
> > As with your Yamaha PSR-740 XG are all functions / prsets & ??
> > interpreted by
> > the Linux MIDI? I am only guessing how all of this works.
> > Tom
>
>
> You could have a look for yourself, the spec seems to  be freely
> available:
> http://www.yamaha.co.uk/xg/reading/pdf/xg_spec.pdf
>
> Chris
>


Ok, my bad, should have followed the link on wikipedia before sharing it...
It doesn't seem to be available anymore.

Chris

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