[LAU] An atrocity committed with PD (MIDI Spec) + (XG)

[david]

thomas fisher wrote:
> On Friday 31 August 2007 23:52:33 david wrote:
>> thomas fisher wrote:
>>> On Friday 31 August 2007 01:09:07 david wrote:
>>>> Steve McConville wrote:
>>>>>> I am curious - has there been any move to modernize the MIDI
>>>>>> connectivity standards to include USB or Ethernet?
>>>>> There has been - there is a midi over usb standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> Midi is a poor starting point for modernisation not just beacause of
>>>>> the pragmatic compromises mentioned above but also because it is
>>>>> wholly unlayered (the spec covers everything from the physical up to
>>>>> the presentational layer),
>>>> That could be separated fairly easily, I'd think.
>>>>
>>>>> and has it's expansion room squeezed into
>>>>> the SysEx ghetto.
>>>> That's a big problem.
>>>>
>>>>> Midi over ethernet would be even less pleasant, and
>>>>> less logical, than doing RS-232 over ethernet.
>>>> Only reason I mentioned Ethernet is that there are analog musical
>>>> instruments around already that can transmit their audio via Ethernet
>>>> (instead of analog audio cables).
>>>>
>>>>> OSC has fixed these problems and should have been built into
>>>>> everything since the mid-90s but so many people have invested time in
>>>>> learning MIDI that they wouldn't countenance working with anything
>>>>> else. It looks like RESTful web services may eventually replace both,
>>>>> however.
>>>> I suspect that MIDI won't be budged. It is a standard in the music
>>>> world, and I doubt that many musicians care about it's limitations. They
>>>> may not even be aware of them. MIDI certainly keeps time in a lot finer
>>>> increments than I'm able to play - that's why sequencer programs have
>>>> quantization functions!
>>> How does the " XG " extension play into this? How proprietary is it?
>> I don't know - and each week I play a Yahama PSR-740 keyboard with
>> Yamaha's XG. I've recorded some MIDIs using it, and they open just fine
>> in Rosegarden and play in fluidsynth. Or maybe you're talking about
>> something else?
> 
> I do not know either, and was asking in the context of the MIDI discussion. I 
> have always assumed that XG was an extension to the standard MIDI 
> specification. And again I always assumed that an interpretative function 
> existed somewhere in software layers either within a driver or in a filter. 
> As with your Yamaha PSR-740 XG are all functions / prsets & ?? interpreted by 
> the Linux MIDI? I am only guessing how all of this works.

I've no clue. I have a Yamaha PSR-740 configuration file I use with 
Rosegarden that lists all the extended XG voices. I don't know if it has 
any support for presets or the pile of other things the keyboard has. I 
haven't tried driving the PSR-740 from Rosegarden, since I don't yet 
have MIDI set up.

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