[LAU] Linux-audio-user Digest, Vol 17, Issue 25

Nathan Hale nathan.hale at gmail.com
Fri Jul 18 14:35:02 EDT 2008


I also have a Samsung SyncMaster 2253BW. Can't go wrong!
~Nathan R. Hale
Rom. 12:2

------M y W e b s i t e s----------------------------------------------
http://nathanrhale.com - personal site
http://productivelinux.com - get stuff done w/Linux!
http://linuxmusicians.com - create music freely
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:00 AM,
<linux-audio-user-request at lists.linuxaudio.org> wrote:
> Send Linux-audio-user mailing list submissions to
>        linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>        http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>        linux-audio-user-request at lists.linuxaudio.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>        linux-audio-user-owner at lists.linuxaudio.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Linux-audio-user digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Re: monitor shot, need advice for a new one
>      (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki)
>   2. Re: headphones (Florin Andrei)
>   3. Re: headphones (Florin Andrei)
>   4. Re: headphones (Florin Andrei)
>   5. Re: headphones (Mark Knecht)
>   6. ZynAddSubFX chagneing tempo in an instruments effect ?
>      (Svend-Erik Kj?r Madsen)
>   7. Re: headphones (Florin Andrei)
>   8. [ANN] Qtractor 0.2.0 (frolic demoiselle) is out! (Rui Nuno Capela)
>   9. Re: headphones (schoappied)
>  10. Re: headphones (The Other)
>  11. Re: headphones (Mark Knecht)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:24:18 -0500
> From: Eric Dantan Rzewnicki <eric at zhevny.com>
> Subject: Re: [LAU] monitor shot, need advice for a new one
> To: Dave Phillips <dlphillips at woh.rr.com>
> Cc: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org>
> Message-ID: <20080717162417.GC29690 at zhevny.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:23:31AM -0400, Dave Phillips wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I'm writing this message while viewing it on my new Samsung 2253BW
>> monitor. All I can say about it is that I wish I would have bought two
>> of these suckers. I may yet do so, maybe I'll give the Westinghouse to Ivy.
>
> A man walks into his kitchen and opens the refrigerator door. Sitting
> there looking at him is a rabbit. Astonished, the man exlaims, "What are
> you doing in there?!?" To which the rabbit replies, "It's a
> Westinghouse, isn't it?" To which the puzzled man replies hesitantly,
> "Yes ...". "Well, I'm westing," explains the rabbit.
>
> but, seriously, I'm using a Samsung SyncMaster 225BW, too, and am
> perfectly happy.
>
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> believed to be clean.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:54:22 -0700
> From: Florin Andrei <florin at andrei.myip.org>
> Subject: Re: [LAU] headphones
> To: linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org
> Message-ID: <487FBF8E.9090706 at andrei.myip.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>> for bass practice the 7506's are going to work out great, but they
>> aren't the perfect set of headphones. Surprise - none will be perfect
>
> Previously I was speaking in general. But on the particular topic of
> listening to bass, I would appreciate some more insight, since I'm not a
> bass player.
> So, if you're practising bass guitar, do you want your headphones to
> emphasize bass, or do you want them to be flat?
>
> A lot of the phones mentioned here are flat, or even a bit light on the
> bass side. Most of the Sennheiser, the AKG K 240, to some degree the
> Grado - all these are pretty flat, they don't emphasize anything, or not
> in the bass range at least.
>
> I only know of one phone that is very accurate and has a pretty full
> bass - the Beyerdynamic DT 880, but at $320 it's beyond the price range
> mentioned by the OP.
>
> So, do you want the bass over-emphasized when practising it?
>
> (OTOH, if the phone is accurate, even if it has a thin bass, I guess it
> can be corrected in the preamp. But again, I'm not a bass player.)
>
> --
> Florin Andrei
>
> http://florin.myip.org/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:56:29 -0700
> From: Florin Andrei <florin at andrei.myip.org>
> Subject: Re: [LAU] headphones
> To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org>
> Message-ID: <487FC00D.1010301 at andrei.myip.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> schoappied wrote:
>> And how is the HD 570?
>
> I don't know, I never tried it. Read the review on headphone.com if it
> has one.
>
> --
> Florin Andrei
>
> http://florin.myip.org/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:14:34 -0700
> From: Florin Andrei <florin at andrei.myip.org>
> Subject: Re: [LAU] headphones
> To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org>
> Message-ID: <487FC44A.4070102 at andrei.myip.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> schoappied wrote:
>> So it's not recommend to use a sealed headphone when you're on the road
>> riding a bike?
>
> I would not attempt that as long as I intend to live a long and happy
> life. :-)
>
>> How sealed is sealed...
>
> Look at the attenuation factor. A sealed phone should be between -10 and
> -20 dB, is my guess.
>
> But anyway, the difference is the back of the acoustic membrane.
> Sealed phones - the back moves in a closed box.
> Open-air - the back is in an open cavity. There might actually be holes
> on the outside of the phone, through which you may actually see the
> membrane (not always).
>
>> You don't make a distinction between pop/ rock music and jazz/ classic
>> music headphones?
>> (by the way: Isn't a distinction between light music (eg pop/rock/ jazz)
>> and classic music better?)
>
> Music is music, and an accurate phone is an accurate phone. What works
> best for one kind of music should work for any other kind. I think the
> so-called "phones for classic music", or whatever, are a commercial
> gimmick. The phone should not do anything. Quite the opposite, the phone
> must get out of the way and just be a pure conduit for the sound, it
> must introduce as few changes as possible.
>
> The only exception might be when you're doing special work. E.g., you're
> mixing the tracks and you need a _very_ revealing phone to spot any
> defect. Something like a Grado might help.
> I don't know what happens when playing the bass guitar. Do you want the
> bass emphasized? I'm not a bass player so I can't answer that.
>
> Otherwise, just get the flattest and most accurate ones you can afford,
> and learn to trust them.
> Like Mark said, it often helps to get two or three phones over a period
> of time, if you can afford them, and use each one of them as needed.
>
>> There are some of this types on ebay for around 47 euro's, but I don't
>> know if I can trust it and if they're exactly the same type of the one
>> you have mentioned...
>>
>> http://search.ebay.nl/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=Sennheiser+HD+280
>
> The black ones are the 280 Pro. I have one of those. It's a very good
> sealed phone. It's flat and laid-back; people used to cheap bright
> phones are usually not impressed. It's like eating super-hot food for
> many years, tons of black pepper and what not, and then you go back to a
> subtle, refined, normal diet - your taste buds are shot and you may not
> feel any taste for a while, which is a paradox because actually only now
> you have any chance to feel the real taste of the food, instead of the
> fire from the black pepper. I hope that makes sense.
> It's something that happens to a lot of people when they listen for the
> first time through flat accurate phones.
>
> --
> Florin Andrei
>
> http://florin.myip.org/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:35:30 -0700
> From: "Mark Knecht" <markknecht at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [LAU] headphones
> To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <5bdc1c8b0807171535h7d226fa8n8f14c64a6ab1aa03 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Florin Andrei <florin at andrei.myip.org> wrote:
>> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>
>>> for bass practice the 7506's are going to work out great, but they
>>> aren't the perfect set of headphones. Surprise - none will be perfect
>>
>> Previously I was speaking in general. But on the particular topic of
>> listening to bass, I would appreciate some more insight, since I'm not a
>> bass player.
>> So, if you're practising bass guitar, do you want your headphones to
>> emphasize bass, or do you want them to be flat?
>
> In my mind you want the response flat to a bit emphasized in the bass
> region. There are really two things operating here:
>
> 1) Fletcher-Munson tends to drop the bass if you're not listening loudly.
>
> 2) Most people have never used a sound pressure meter to determine
> what volume to listen safely.
>
> 3) Even if they have it's difficult when using headphones without
> special equipment.
>
> 4) Over time folks tend to listen at lower levels if they are going to
> protect their hearing.
>
> 5) All of that adds up to less bass when listening
>
> 6) To practice bass get a headphone with some extra emphasis in the
> bass areas, keep the volume down and enjoy.
>
>>
>> A lot of the phones mentioned here are flat, or even a bit light on the
>> bass side. Most of the Sennheiser, the AKG K 240, to some degree the
>> Grado - all these are pretty flat, they don't emphasize anything, or not
>> in the bass range at least.
>>
>> I only know of one phone that is very accurate and has a pretty full
>> bass - the Beyerdynamic DT 880, but at $320 it's beyond the price range
>> mentioned by the OP.
>>
>> So, do you want the bass over-emphasized when practising it?
>>
>> (OTOH, if the phone is accurate, even if it has a thin bass, I guess it
>> can be corrected in the preamp. But again, I'm not a bass player.)
>>
>
> That's a possibility also.
>
> Please note that for the record I don't know what headphones are
> accurate. I own AKG's, Sony's & Sennheiser's. I've never owned Grade
> or Beyer Dynamics but would like to get a set on day. Comparatively
> the Sony's have more bass so it seems a good match for his task. I
> think lots of rock bass players (Squire, McCartney, Rutherford, Lake)
> sound good in these headphones whereas the other headphones they don't
> stand out as much.
>
> - Mark
>
>> --
>> Florin Andrei
>>
>> http://florin.myip.org/
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linux-audio-user mailing list
>> Linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org
>> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:44:17 +0200
> From: Svend-Erik Kj?r Madsen <sv-e at sv-e.dk>
> Subject: [LAU] ZynAddSubFX chagneing tempo in an instruments effect ?
> To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org>
> Message-ID: <1216334657.3588.14.camel at linux-fin4.site>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Hi
> I have found one of the factory instruments useful for a new project.
>
> It's the Resonance Synth from the Synth group, but the echo tails comes
> a little to fast, they are about tempo 120 and I would like them to be
> 100 or even lower, how can I change that ? I've been  fidget round with
> the instrument editor without any luck so far, and I do not understand
> how it works at all, I just want to play :(
>
>
> Help is much appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advantage
>
> /Sv-e
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:47:52 -0700
> From: Florin Andrei <florin at andrei.myip.org>
> Subject: Re: [LAU] headphones
> To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org>
> Message-ID: <487FCC18.7050107 at andrei.myip.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Paul Coccoli wrote:
>>
>> I love my Grado SR-60s.  I think I paid $65US.  Yes, they are on the
>> bright side, but I like that.
>
> Well, there you have it. Everyone is different.
>
>> They're not the most comfortable pair
>> of headphones, but not too bad.
>
> That is the only other negative comment I hear about Grado. I don't care
> too much about that. Yes, they're not like the HD 600, which you can
> fall asleep with and sleep through the night with them on (been there,
> done that) and in the morning you forget you had them on (until you get
> up and start walking and the cord yanks them back).
> But it's not like they're going to rip your ears off or crush your head
> either. They're fine for me. But some people do complain about the
> ergonomics. OTOH, somebody will always complain about something.
>
> I've heard there are some custom earpads for them, but I could never
> motivate myself to actually investigate that. And who knows, the custom
> pads may change the response and throw them off balance. So why mess
> with something that works fine already.
>
> --
> Florin Andrei
>
> http://florin.myip.org/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:20:42 +0100
> From: Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc at rncbc.org>
> Subject: [LAU] [ANN] Qtractor 0.2.0 (frolic demoiselle) is out!
> To: linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org
> Message-ID: <487FD3CA.2050009 at rncbc.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Qtractor 0.2.0 (frolic demoiselle) is out!
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Qtractor is an audio/MIDI multi-track sequencer application written in
> C++ with the Qt4 framework [1]. Target platform is Linux, where the a
> Jack Audio Connection Kit (JACK)  for audio [2] and the Advanced Linux
> Sound Architecture (ALSA) for MIDI [3] are the main infrastructures to
> evolve as a fairly-featured Linux desktop audio workstation GUI,
> specially dedicated to the personal home-studio.
>
> Qtractor is free open-source software, distributed under the GNU General
> Public License (GPL) [15].
>
> Author:
>
>   Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc at rncbc dot org>
>
> Weblog:
>
>   http://wwww.rncbc.org
>
> Website:
>
>   http://qtractor.sourceforge.net
>
> Project page:
>
>   http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtractor
>
> Download:
>
>   http://downloads.sourceforge.net/qtractor/qtractor-0.2.0.tar.gz
>
>
> Executive summary:
>
> - Multi-track audio and MIDI sequencing and recording.
> - Developed on pure Qt4 C++ application framework [1] (no Qt3 nor KDE
> dependency).
> - Uses JACK [2] for audio and ALSA [3] sequencer for MIDI as
> infrastructure.
> - Traditional multi-track tape recorder control paradigm.
> - Audio file formats support: OGG (via libvorbis [6]), MP3 (via libmad
> [7], playback only), WAV, FLAC, AIFF and many, many more (via linsndfile
> [4]).
> - Standard MIDI files support (format 0 and 1).
> - Non-destructive, non-linear editing.
> - Unlimited number of tracks per session/project.
> - Unlimited number of overlapping clips per track.
> - XML encoded session/project description files (SDI).
> - Point-and-click, multi-select, drag-and-drop interaction (drag, move,
> drop, cut, copy, paste, delete, split)
> - Unlimited undo/redo.
> - Built-in mixer and monitor controls.
> - Buil-in connection patchbay control and persistence (a-la QjackCtl [13]).
> - LADSPA [5], DSSI [11] and native VSTi [12] plug-in support.
> - Unlimited number of plug-ins per track or bus.
> - Plug-in presets, programs and chunk/configurations support.
> - Audio/MIDI clip fade-in/out (linear, quadratic, cubic).
> - Audio clip time-stretching (WSOLA-like or via librubberband [9]),
> pitch-shifting (vib librubberband [9]) and samplerate conversion (via
> libsamplerate [8]).
> - Audio/MIDI track export (mix-down, merge).
> - Audio/MIDI metronome bar/beat clicks.
> - MIDI clip editor (piano roll).
> - MIDI instrument definitions (a-la Cakewalk(tm) [15])
> - JACK transport sync master.
> - MMC control surface enabled.
> - Configurable keyboard shortcuts.
>
>
> Requirements:
>
> Mandatory: libqt4 [1], libjack [2], libasound [3], libsndfile [4],
> LADSPA [5]. Optional: libvorbis [6], libmad [7], libsamplerate [8],
> librubberband [9], liblo [10], DSSI [11], VST-SDK [12].
>
>
> Disclaimer:
>
> Qtractor is still in some alpha stage of development, although already
> functional it surely has a plenty of lurking bugs. It also lacks some
> features that some might find critical in the application field. All is
> not lost, as the following are among the ones planned to be worked on in
> the times to come (not in any particular order):
>
> - Automation and MIDI controller mapping.
> - Session/project templates.
> - Puch-in/out and loop recording (takes).
> - Audio clip cross-fading.
> - Audio effect send/return aux. inserts.
> - Clip locking, muting, normalize (gain).
> - LV2 plug-in support.
> - JACK MIDI support.
> - Tempo and key signature map.
> - Paste-repeat command.
> - MIDI SysEx manager.
> - MIDI event list editor.
> - MIDI editor (piano roll) draw mode.
> - MIDI groove/swing quantize.
> - OSC interface.
> - Scripting.
> - Etc. etc.
>
>
> Change-log:
>
> 2009-07-18  0.2.0  The Frolic Demoiselle
>
> - MIDI clip filename revision logic is now introduced, thus avoiding the
> proliferation of several numbered SMF's on each edit/save; some lurking
> bugs were exposed in the MIDI clip externalization method but promptly
> squashed.
>
> - Fixed a mouse release event glitch while in drag-and-drop items in the
> Files tree list widget.
>
> - A dummy plugin type option has been devised, just to bear with some
> troubled behavior of the lovely JUCETICE plugins
> (View/Options.../Plugins/Experimental/Dummy VST plugin scan). Bad news
> are that all, yes all as in every native VST plugins, are
> indistinguishable from being just pure audio effects, either mono or
> stereo, whatever, and thus all being considered full-blown stereo VSTi
> instruments (which are the vast mainstream and rather interesting
> majority, nevertheless:).
>
> - The plugin selection dialog (Add Plugin...) now features the option
> whether the selected plugins should be activated on insert.
>
> - Mixer strip titles now have distinguishable type icons, either for
> audio or MIDI, and shown on all buses and track strips.
>
> - Major optimization breakthrough: muted audio tracks aren't streamed
> any longer, saving precious CPU cycles from decoding, resampling,
> pitch-shifting, time-stretching, plugin effects, whatever.
>
> - Incredible as it might be, audio/MIDI track record monitoring is now
> mixed (or merged) with rolling playback content, thus not as mutually
> exclusive between record and playback states anymore; also, track
> mute/solo states doesn't apply to recording material anymore.
>
> - Main form timer slot gets corrected and now independent of current
> process buffer-size in regard to JACK transport synchronization.
>
> - All file references in session state file are now stored as relative
> paths to main session directory.
>
> - DSSI/VSTi plugin presets can now be explicitly recalled from file (ie.
> Open/load preset) through this new tool button whether visible while in
> the generic plugin form.
>
> - Due to some trouble with newer Qt >= 4.4 applications regarding font
> size configuration, a new global user option is now available to the
> rescue: View/Options... /Display/Base font size (default is no-op).
>
> - Logarithmic scale is now taken into effect by control parameter
> sliders, in the generic plugin editor dialog as provided by LADSPA and
> DSSI plugin types.
>
> - MIDI track bank/program does not default to zero (PC#0) anymore.
>
> - Second attempt for Qt4.4 build support, regarding the bundled atomic
> primitives, now corrected and way more seriously :).
>
> - Long due DSSI/VSTi plugin host implementation has taken shape for MIDI
> instruments (eg. soft-synth plugins); DSSI reached its full host
> implementation and VSTi is already kicking as well (HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL).
>
> - DSSI/VSTi plugin presets may now be stored to external XML files,
> which should include all parameter values and configuration data chunks,
> taken as proper state snapshot and subject for recall.
>
> - Dedicated audio output bus option is now also accessible for all MIDI
> instrument plugins, either set globally as a default mode in
> View/Options.../Plugins/Instruments or in the plugin context menu for
> MIDI tracks, as an undoable command.
>
> - Fixed a potential crash-exception due to freeing a null-pointer,
> raised on some ever stringent platforms and while adding tracks to empty
> sessions, which is the same to say this was crashing more than always:).
>
> - Loop turn-around is now taken care of, as this has been found missing
> and causing noticeable gapping when un-muting or changing MIDI track
> events while in playback.
>
> - An off-by-one bug was fixed while inside MIDI cursor backward seek
> method, which was missing all other events that have the same exact
> onset timing.
>
> - Attempt to load Qt's own translation support and get rid of the ever
> warning startup message, unless built in debug mode. (transaction by
> Guido Scholz, while on qsynth-devel, thanks).
>
> - Only one application instance is now allowed to be up and running,
> with immediate but graceful termination upon startup iif an already
> running instance is detected, which will see its main widget shown up
> automatically (Qt/X11 platform only).
>
> - Clip fades have now a slight transparency.
>
> - Avoid loop read-ahead on initial audio clip loading.
>
> - Messages file logging makes its first long overdue appearance, with
> user configurable settings in View/Options.../Logging; options dialog
> was slightly rearranged and moved the Plugins section into a new tab page.
>
> - Audio/MIDI drifting correction was missing its own correct and due
> (re)initialization whenever playback is (re)started; also, MIDI metering
> synchronization has been fixed once again.
>
> - Fixed session cursor backward seeking, specially applicable when
> playback passes the end of overlapped clips.
>
> - Fixed potential crash when opening bogus audio files.
>
> - Time-stretch FIFO buffer implementation is now made generic, as
> template, fixing a destructor memory leak in the process.
>
> - Include legacy headers, stdlib.h and string.h, where necessary to
> build with stricter gcc/g++ >= 4.3.
>
>
> References:
>
> [1]  Qt4 (core, gui, xml), C++ class library and tools
>      for crossplatform development and internationalization
>      http://www.trolltech.org/products/qt/
>
> [2]  JACK Audio Connection Kit
>      http://jackaudio.org/
>
> [3]  ALSA, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
>      http://www.alsa-project.org/
>
> [4]  libsndfile, C library for reading and writing
>      files containing sampled sound
>      http://www.mega-nerd.com/libsndfile/
>
> [5]  LADSPA, Linux Audio Developer's Simple Plugin API
>      http://www.ladspa.org/
>
> [6]  libvorbis (enc, file), Ogg Vorbis audio compression
>      http://xiph.org/vorbis/
>
> [7]  libmad, High-quality MPEG audio decoder
>      http://www.underbit.com/products/mad/
>
> [8]  libsamplerate, The secret rabbit code, C library
>      for audio sample rate conversion
>      http://www.mega-nerd.com/SRC/
>
> [9]  librubberband, Rubber Band Audio Time Stretcher,
>      an audio time-stretching and pitch-shifting library
>      http://breakfastquay.com/rubberband/
>
> [10] liblo, Lightweight OSC implementation
>      (needed for DSSI GUI support)
>      http://liblo.sourceforge.net/
>
> [11] DSSI, an API for soft synth plugins with custom user interfaces
>      http://dssi.sourceforge.net/
>
> [12] VST SDK, Steinberg's Virtual Studio Technology (see README.VST)
>      http://www.steinberg.net/
>
> [13] QjackCtl - JACK Qt GUI Interface
>      http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net
>
> [14] GNU General Public License
>      http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
>
> [15] Cakewalk (by Roland), powerful and easy-to-use tools
>      for Windows-based music and sound production
>      http://www.cakewalk.com/
>
>
> Cheers && Enjoy.
> --
> rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:31:05 +0200
> From: schoappied <schoappied at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [LAU] headphones
> Cc: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org>
> Message-ID: <488062D9.7090407 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>> So, if you're practising bass guitar, do you want your headphones to
>>> emphasize bass, or do you want them to be flat?
>>>
>>
>> 6) To practice bass get a headphone with some extra emphasis in the
>> bass areas, keep the volume down and enjoy.
>>
>>
>>
> That's a good point... what is good for practising bass...
>
> Maybe this one. It got nice reviews and they have extra emphasis on the
> bass..
>
> http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/sennheiser-hd-212-pro.php
>
>
> mmhh
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:11:50 -0500
> From: The Other <sstubbs at shout.net>
> Subject: Re: [LAU] headphones
> To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org>
> Message-ID: <1216386710.3792.5.camel at localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Yamaha RH-5Ma monitor headphones.  Around $50 US.
>
> Semi-closed cup design, so you can ride your bicycle.
> Weight 5.8oz
> Sensitivity 98dB/mW
> Frequency Response 20Hz-20kHz
>
> Works for me.
>
> Stephen.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:47:53 -0700
> From: "Mark Knecht" <markknecht at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [LAU] headphones
> To: schoappied <schoappied at gmail.com>
> Cc: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <5bdc1c8b0807180647o4701487di1180ce2fc488beee at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:31 AM, schoappied <schoappied at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>> So, if you're practising bass guitar, do you want your headphones to
>>>> emphasize bass, or do you want them to be flat?
>>>>
>>>
>>> 6) To practice bass get a headphone with some extra emphasis in the
>>> bass areas, keep the volume down and enjoy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> That's a good point... what is good for practising bass...
>>
>> Maybe this one. It got nice reviews and they have extra emphasis on the
>> bass..
>>
>> http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/sennheiser-hd-212-pro.php
>>
>
> I think there are too many issues here to pick one out by looking at
> web pages. A number of folks have given you suggestions for headphones
> that would more or less meet you 50 euro criteria. The issue is that
> not only do your headphones need to sound good, they need to feel good
> if you're going to wear them for extended amounts of time. You're not
> really going to figure this out without finding someplace where you
> can try a few pair out so go look for that.
>
> You might also check out the 'Best Headphones' section of your web
> site for their guidance. They like a Grado model in that price range
> and their frequency response chart for the Grado does look better, at
> least to my eyes.
>
> Also, I was reading about their favorite headphone, a Denon model, and
> they made the point that it doesn't sound all that good with portable
> music devices. Only once they match it with a high end headphone amp
> does it really shine. Now, my point is NOT that you should buy a high
> end amp, but that you need to listen to the headphones you are
> interested in using the same equipment you intended to drive them
> with.
>
> Anyway, enough talk. Go listen, make sure the sound is reasonable, and
> then buy a set and work with them. I've made the point on this list a
> few times that I bought a $1000 set of studio monitors over Ebay. Good
> reviews, folks liked them. They arrived and I hated the sound, but I'd
> spent my money. I was disappointed for a couple of months, but over
> time I both got used to their sound and also got educated in placing
> them more effectively. Now I actually like their sound and do good
> mixes on them, but it wasn't that way in the beginning.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-audio-user mailing list
> Linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org
> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
>
>
> End of Linux-audio-user Digest, Vol 17, Issue 25
> ************************************************
>



More information about the Linux-audio-user mailing list