[LAU] JAMin updates?

Arnold Krille arnold at arnoldarts.de
Tue Aug 4 14:57:55 EDT 2009

On Tuesday 04 August 2009 19:11:53 you wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:52 AM,
> eviltwin69 at cableone.net<eviltwin69 at cableone.net> wrote:
> > On Tue Aug  4 14:09 , Arnold Krille  sent:
> >>On Tuesday 04 August 2009 12:36:40 Jan Depner wrote:
> >>> There really isn't much we can add to it.  In fact, I think we probably
> >>> want to remove a couple of things ;-)
> >>For example that 10ms delay so it gets (more) usable for live-foh usage?
> >> ;-)
> >    Unfortunately, I don't think there's any hope for that.  That's just
> > processing overhead.  I was thinking more of the per band delays.  I
> > added those, mostly just for fun and to learn how the processing worked.
> >  They make a minor difference in the output but not enough to warrant
> > keeping them.

I talked to the main-devs (was it steve harris) one or several times. As far 
as I remember the 10ms delay is because of the math in either the EQ or the X-
over for the compressors, don't remember exactly which. And there is probably 
no way to cirumvent that.

Hmm, maybe DSP-expert Fons has something in his toolbox?

> Just my personal POV, and not that it can't be used live, but the
> concept of using Jamin 'live' really wasn't what the original purpose
> was which was more a mastering plugin to address what we were missing
> from the Waves stuff as we came to Linux.

Well, I have seen people use a three-band studio compressor from the 
mastering-rack on tour for foh. And everyone uses a 31band EQ live (or at 
least should). So I actually tried to use jamin as master-effect once. Worked 
okay from the sound-perspective but the musicians and speakers complained 
about the delay (was a rather small room).

> Jamin's been a great too for me as it is.

For me too!

But that doesn't let me stop dreaming. :-)

Have fun,

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