[LAU] is there a controller like this?

andy baxter andy at earthsong.free-online.co.uk
Tue Jul 28 05:44:51 EDT 2009


michael noble wrote:
> Andy,
>
> If you don't need the keyboard then I'd also recommend a Behringger 
> BFC2000, which has 8 motorized faders and 8 encoders and is well 
> supprted under linux. It's also fairly cheap considering the 
> featureset. I'm pretty sure there are a number of users in this list.
>
Thanks. I found a link to the Behringer BCR2000 on a page about the 
BCF2000, which has more encoders and no motorised faders - this appeals 
to me more as motorised faders seem a bit clunky to me.

I was thinking something like this would cost hundreds of pounds, but 
it's more like UKP 100-120.

andy
> -michael
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:37 PM, andy baxter 
> <andy at earthsong.free-online.co.uk 
> <mailto:andy at earthsong.free-online.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Hi michael,
>
>     Thanks for the info about the remote25. It looks good (just
>     skimming through the review in 'sound on sound'), but I don't
>     really want to get another device with a keyboard when I've just
>     bought one.
>
>     What I really want is a 'bare bones' device with just some
>     encoders, buttons, and an lcd screen. An x-y pad would be nice as
>     well but not essential.
>
>     andy
>
>     michael noble wrote:
>
>         Hi Andy,
>
>         I'm not sure exactly if it is what you need, but I would have
>         thought that any class compliant midi controller with encoders
>         and some facility for controller banks will serve your
>         purpose. The novation remote25 which I have has 8 encoders, 8
>         knobs, 8 sliders, an x/y pad, joystick and 16 buttons, plus
>         instant recall of any of 64 stored presets of controller
>         mapping. To be honest that's all overkill for me as the only
>         thing I use beside the keyboard are the encoders and the
>         banks, but it serves its purpose. Editing the controllers is
>         not as direct as you seem to wish for, but setting up a new
>         controller with the editing mode takes about 15 seconds and
>         I've done so in live situations when needed. To my knowledge
>         many midi controllers offer similar capabilities.
>
>         As for displaying the current level of a synth or software
>         based parameter on the controller lcd, that all depends mostly
>         on whether the software implements midi feedback or not.
>         Without knowing your specific software its difficult to say
>         what the status of support is.
>
>         -michael n
>
>
>
>         On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:28 PM, andy baxter
>         <andy at earthsong.free-online.co.uk
>         <mailto:andy at earthsong.free-online.co.uk>
>         <mailto:andy at earthsong.free-online.co.uk
>         <mailto:andy at earthsong.free-online.co.uk>>> wrote:
>
>            Hello,
>
>            I have just bought a second hand keyboard, (edirol PCR-500)
>         which has
>            loads of knobs and sliders on it. The trouble is that all the
>            knobs are
>            pots, not rotary encoders; encoders would be much more
>         useful I think
>            because it would mean that if you press a button to switch
>         to a new
>            synth or effects patch, the correct defaults for it could be
>            automatically loaded to each of the knobs when you switch.
>         Without
>            that,
>            it seems like whenever you switch to a new instrument you would
>            have to
>            spend a while tweaking all the knobs to get the right basic
>         sound.
>
>            What I would like is a device with a couple of rotary
>         encoders on it
>            (you only have two hands), maybe 16 buttons, and a
>         character LCD
>            screen.
>
>            The way it would work is (something-like):
>
>            - one of the buttons would be for loading new instruments. To
>            switch to
>            a new instrument, you would press the button and then turn
>         either
>            encoder. The LCD would show which instrument you were
>         choosing from a
>            list, and you would press the button again to make the switch.
>            - most of the buttons would be for accessing different midi
>         controls.
>            You could assign a midi control to an encoder by pressing the
>            button for
>            that control first, then pressing a button underneath the
>         encoder you
>            were assigning.
>            - having done this, that encoder would be bound to that
>         midi control -
>            turning it would send out midi messages for that control,
>         and also
>            update a display on the LCD saying what the level of that
>         control is
>            currently set at.
>            - loading a new instrument would automatically set the
>         right default
>            levels for each controller that that instrument used.
>
>            Does anyone know of anything like this that's already being
>         made?
>            If so
>            I might get hold of one and see if I can hack it to work with
>            linux; if
>            not I'm thinking of having a go at making my own some time.
>
>            cheers,
>
>            andy baxter.
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