[LAU] Daemons, daemons...kill those daemons.

[Jostein Chr. Andersen]

On Monday 15 June 2009 05.52.23 carmen wrote:
> > Many people (including me) are using KDE4 and it's very clean and user
> > centric
>
> i found it overtly hostile to basic tasks, like finding a web browser in an
> app menu
>
> plus it caused the boot-to-GUI proces to take 3 minutes

20 seconds here! :-)


> > no problem. Why do some people still have problem using an app just
> > because it's a QT or KDE app? I don't get that.
>
>  because, at least on Gentoo, it requires compiling all of KDE and QT,
> which can be a multi-day affair (compare w/ 5 seconds for dwm, 10 mins for
> xorg, and 15 for webkit, a 'WebOS' system in a half hour)

This is not a problem on *Ubuntus, Fedoras and other mainstream distros, it's 
already compiled. I used LFS (manuell compilationa as oposite to Gentoo) 
several years, and when I compiled apps like QT, I just did something else in 
the meantime, like working, sleeping or whatever.

>
> then when you launch a KDElibs app, it launches 10 odd daemons, kdeserver,
> dcop, etcetc, sucking 200 MB of ram
>
> > Messy? No way!
>
> the hodgepodge of panels and default icons was certainly messy

Perhaps you misunderstood me? I wrote apps (".. a QT or KDE app"), not 
environment. :-) Gnome is neat and slick, I like it and many other people like 
it, I just like KDE better.

Well, I can understand that people don't use a program because they don't like 
it, or are using something that they think is better, but choose away an app 
because of the tookit?. I don't like GTK and wxWidgets, but it's no way that I 
stop using two of my favorite apps because their toolkits: Ardour (GTK)and 
Audacity(wx). I even use wx on an Opensource project (SocratiMA) I'm working 
on that will be finished by end of this year.

Jostein