[LAU] A made-in-linux audio project

Benoît Rouits brouits at free.fr
Mon Oct 12 16:15:48 EDT 2009


Thanks for the post, this is great to see Vertov with
fresh sounds!
- Ben
Lorenzo wrote:
> The video is now online:
> 
> Here: http://lorenzosu.altervista.org/kinoglaz/kino_en.html
> Or here: http://www.viddler.com/explore/lorenzosu/videos/3/
> 
> Kind regards,
> Lorenzo.
> 
> 
> Lorenzo wrote:
>> [ I try sending again as it seems my first message didn't get through 
>> maybe due to attached screenshots]
>>
>> Ok, sorry for the delay but yesterday I had a little time to write and 
>> recollect on this.
>>
>> The project consisted in the sonification of about 9 minutes from a 
>> Russian silent film made in 1924.
>>
>> My hardware set-up is pretty simple: HP laptop with ubuntu (9.04 
>> currently), ZOOM H4 digital recorder, headphones, speakers. 
>> Software-wise: jack (qjack control), Ardour, Rosegarden, Pd-extended, 
>> various plugins (from the ready-made ubuntu packags), lots of other 
>> audio-related stuff not used in this project, video applications (see 
>> below).
>> I built Ardour and Rosegarden myself due to the ubuntu packages 
>> notoriously being out of date for such applications.
>> I made the mistake of compiling ardour with vst support which wasn't 
>> really necessary (I ended up not using any vst at all, having so many 
>> nice 'native' ones) and seemed to make it more crashy (all the crashes 
>> I got where Wine). Otherwise it was very stable. Anyway, fortunately I 
>> always had the 'ctrl+s tick' and Ardour has a very good undo/redo 
>> support amongst its many features, which keeps memory even through 
>> closing and reopening sessions.
>>
>> Audio + video (jack) - My first issue was to find a way to perfectly 
>> sync audio and video for use with jack-transport-aware applications 
>> (Ardour of course has no support for video - I think that's good). 
>> Research lead to basically two options for jack-transport and video: 
>> Openmovieeditor and Xjadeo, Because I wanted to use Ardour I was more 
>> attracted by xjadeo's minimal interface (basically a video window 
>> controlled by jack transport); I tried building xjadeo after 
>> discovering there was no package for ubuntu but couldn't successfully 
>> play video so used Movie Editor for quite a while; eventually someone 
>> created a launchpad repository for xjadeo and that did work (after 
>> transcoding the clip in the  right format).
>> I created a suitable qjack control profile and a simple script for 
>> launching the video in xjadeo, after which my fixed set-up was ardour 
>> and the small xjadeo window "always on top" - see screenshot-2.png - 
>> notice ardour was perfectly in sync with the video which was a must 
>> for me).
>>
>> Some of the material I had recorded with the H4 recorder and then 
>> trransfered as wav file directly to ardour or PD for editing/processing.
>> Rosegarden and Pd were simply plugged into ardour via Jack, and 
>> usually recorded "live" (for Rosegarden I also used transport). Many 
>> sounds were created in Pd and recorded/edited in Ardour.
>> I also used Pd as a stereo delay effect with a patch I made for some 
>> music composed in Rosegarden, I had some out of sync problems in this 
>> case, but easily solved them by manually realigning the clip. It may 
>> be I had something wrong in the configuration, but I wanted to get 
>> "the job done" so didn't investigate on the problem.
>> In ardour I made massive use of volume and pan automation.
>>
>> Finally I exported the audio from ardour and imported both audio and 
>> video in Cinelerra where I added some titles and translations in 
>> English for the inter-titles in the silent film (the originals are in 
>> Russian, but the DVD edition I had was in Italian) and rendered the 
>> whole thing.
>>
>> I hope this might be helpful. I guess I wasn't very methodical in my 
>> description so if something isn't clear or you'de like more 
>> information don't hesitate to ask anything.
>>
>> Kind regards to the list,
>> Lorenzo.
>> PS: I plan to upload the video somewhere, but first I'de like to find 
>> out the best option (i.e. probably not youtube)
>>
>> Lorenzo wrote:
>>> I'm finalising a lab project for an electronic music course which 
>>> consisted in the sonification of a silent film portion. All was done 
>>> in ubuntu linux.
>>> If it is of interest I can write down some details, and I also have a 
>>> few screenshots.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Lorenzo.
>>>
>>> Leigh Dyer wrote:
>>>> James Stone wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> Interesting.. How do vocals work in a tracker environment?
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>> If you want an example, there's a free album (someone posted on the list 
>>>> back when it came out, so full credit for my knowing about it goes to 
>>>> them!) produced entirely in Renoise that's available as both MP3s and 
>>>> the original Renoise files:
>>>>
>>>> http://hunz.com.au/2009/05/new-album-is-out-now-its-free/
>>>>
>>>> If nothing else, it's a great example of the kinds of things (including 
>>>> vocals) that you can produce with Renoise.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Leigh
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>> What's the situation with plugins for renoise under Linux at the moment?
>>>>>
>>>>> How does midi control work?
>>>>>
>>>>> James




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