[LAU] some live tracks - need some advice

Dave Phillips dlphillips at woh.rr.com
Wed Sep 30 07:34:48 EDT 2009


Garry Ogle wrote:
> Great tracks, Dave, love your vocals.
>   
Thanks, G, I'm glad you like 'em. :)

Honestly, I could be a happy camper just singing blues all night long.

> I don't agree with Robert WRT cutting lows though: that's where all the 
> oomph lives. Its the bright edge on the bass that's the "problem".
> I tried running the tracks through a parametric eq, ( I used LinuxDsp's 
> para eq2 ) trying to nail that edge, but didn't have much success. YMMV.
> You might try cutting a narrow band somewhere between 1 and 2 khz.
>
>   
I'll try it, thanks. I was surprised to hear the bass sound on the 
recording, particularly because I use a rather "round" sound on stage. I 
like definition in the bass but I typically avoid a too-crisp bass tone. 
IOW, the bass sounds completely different on the recording than it did 
on stage. Grrrr....

> ... The fact of the matter is that you are only going to achieve very 
> limited results tweaking a stereo mix to fix individual instruments.
> I wouldn't be surprised if you decided that you could live with it as 
> is. Judging by the other comments that wouldn't be a bad thing.
>   
I'm not going to try to salvage anything from the recordings, they're 
good enough as representative tracks. But I do want to try to get a 
little more balance in the parts, hence my original query. Happily I've 
got a few ideas from you sharp fellows here. :)

> It might be worth investing in a modest multi-track recorder if you're 
> doing a lot of CDs ?
>
>   

My drummer has brought in a Zoom recorder a few times but I don't think 
he knows how to use it [Insert obligatory drummer jokes here]. I've 
never heard what he recorded, he just said that it didn't turn out well. 
I think my guitarist has an 8-track Roland HDR, he definitely does not 
know how to use it, so perhaps I'll figure out that unit.

> If I may presume - for this style of music I would have the tone control 
> on the bass turned nearly all the way down. The sound guy can't turn up 
> what isn't there?
>
>   

I usually do keep a rather full tone on the instrument when we play out. 
As I said, I was quite surprised to hear both the presence and the tone 
quality of the bass. It's not distasteful, it just seems too out-front 
for my listening ears.

Thanks again for your advice and comments, G, it's all much appreciated.

Best,

dp




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