[LAU] re Subconscious Affecting Music

Rustom Mody rustompmody at gmail.com
Mon Aug 30 17:36:33 UTC 2010


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:43 PM, <fons at kokkinizita.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 06:04:53AM -0700, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>
> > Yes, I agree the basic formula for mindless drivel has not changed much
> > over the years. Perhaps that is why we have been dominated by a
> hereditary
> > elite for so long now?
>
> Unfortunately, much of this thread is mindless drivel as well:
>
> * Reducing a complex social process to a simplistic conspiration theory.
>
> * Abusing ill-defined but suggestive terminology from Freudian psychology,
>  ('subconscious', 'mind', etc.) ignoring everything this science as
>  produced over the last 30 or so years.
>
> And what is this 'hereditary elite' ? The last few kings and kaisers
> that remain here and there ?
>
> > If we are accepting of this as the status quo then we get what we
> deserve.
>
> Those who accept it get what they deserve. It's up to you to decide
> if you are included or not.
>
> Ciao,
>
> --
> FA
>

I would just like to point out some (perhaps irrelevant) points:
1. The great western classical tradition which started around Bach (or a few
hundred years earlier depending on how you look at/hear it) suddenly died
around 1900.
Classical music degenerated into varieties of insanities like serialism etc
and pop/rock etc emerged over the next 50 years out of what was earlier
simple folk music.

2. Western music has always used and experimented with varieties of
well-tempering.
Equal tempering only took hold in the 20th century ie after 1900 see for
example:
http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~mrubinst/tuning/tuning.html

3. The 'greatest' wars that humans have ever fought happened in the 20th
century
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