[LAU] Fedora 12 & CCRMA

Orcan Ogetbil oget.fedora at gmail.com
Sat May 15 11:56:36 UTC 2010


On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>
> On 05/15/2010 01:33 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
>>
>> I recommend joining the CCRMA mailing list, as there are many more
>> people there to help you. e.g. I can't help you much pulseaudio since
>> I always remove it from my systems,
>
> Dude!!!! Seriously? That is just so wrong in so many ways. It's one thing
> for a user to say this for whatever reason but you are claiming to represent
> Fedora who also fund a substantial amount of Pulse Audio's Development. So
> much for product loyalty.
>
> It's really no wonder people get confused about PA and JACK when even people
> with the most opportunity to make the system work together are bypassing the
> inherent integration issues by completely side stepping the problem.
>

And what makes you think I (we) never tried? Fedora is going to make
its 6th release with pulseaudio next week and pulseaudio is still
fundamentally buggy. I really don't want to talk about the hours I
spent on pulseaudio. Did you ever file a bug to pulseaudio? Or did you
try to reason with its developer? I did. Yes, I was stupid. But when
pulseaudio started crashing my wife's computer, and destroying her
hdd, I figured that it was time to react.

Me and many people in Fedora who are dealing with audio are willing to
drop pulseaudio, at least make it non-default. It is a waste of time
and resources to enforce some mobile device company's buggy toy on
Linux desktop users. Unfortunately for the time being, the steering
committee of Fedora does not contain enough people with audio
knowledge to make such a decision.

I am working at Fedora but that does not mean that I support
everything we do. It is a large community and like in all large
communities, we have disagreements. After all these years of
education, I can't promote stupidity. Sorry.

Orcan


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