[LAU] LV2 synths for Ardour 3?

Philipp Überbacher hollunder at lavabit.com
Sat Jul 2 23:58:25 UTC 2011


Excerpts from James Stone's message of 2011-07-02 22:34:10 +0200:
> > Native VST support is a bane. It will drag along the VST license
> > troubles indefinitely. In my opinion every work done for native VST is
> > work lost for LV2, and it's not like there are a lot of developers
> > around.
> > At one point native VST might have seemed attractive (VST but more
> > stable than non-native, what else is the point of it?), but this
> > must have been the time before LV2. DSSI and especially ladspa might
> > have been limited in one way or another, but LV2 is potentially superior
> > to VST and while there's certainly much that can be done, I doubt that
> > it really lacks behind in capabilities even now.
> > So in my opinion native VST should be forgotten about as fast as
> > possible.
> >
> 
> I wonder if commercial plugin manufacturers think LV2 (if they know of
> it) is too much of a risk from submarine patents and the like: if they
> license VST, they can stand behind Steinberg in the case of any legal
> action, whereas if they implement their plugins in LV2, they have to
> stand on their own??
> 
> Not sure how much basis in fact this line of thinking has, but I
> wouldn't be surprised if it is behind some companies seeming
> reluctance to embrace LV2.. On the other hand it could just be
> laziness and inertia - I imagine if the plugin is already written for
> VST in windows, it is considerably less work to port the VST to linux
> as native VST rather than recode it for LV2.
> 
> J

I'm not a lawyer and am not sure about the software patent situation,
but I really doubt this is relevant here. There are horrible patent wars
surrounding codecs, but I doubt the same is true for plugin standards
because I doubt they contain anything new.
Again, I don't know what's more work, porting to native VST or LV2. Both
has been done and there isn't exactly a flood of either kind of ports.



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