[LAU] Issues with distros (and GTK2?) prev: A3 video

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 09:26 +0200, pshirkey at boosthardware.com wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 06:49 +0200, pshirkey at boosthardware.com wrote:
> >> 2: The people who are being paid are purposefully screwing things up.
> >> 3: The people who are being paid are incompetent and should be fired.
> >
> > Full ACK in general *just kidding*. Regarding to Ardour3, as long as the
> > coder don't wish his alpha version to be packaged and IIRC he does
> > (Pardon Mr. Davis if I'm mistaken ;), the packagers shouldn't include it
> > to a repository.
> >
> 
> That is reasonable for an alpha version but when there is no ongoing
> support for the stable versions of the most useful tools and making sure
> there is a decent collection of unstable tools to work with in the major
> distros that suggests a more sinister angle. There is absolutely no good
> reason for the major distros to be so slack in this regard. They are
> literally making us all look bad.
> 
> It's been this way for years and by now they should have realised that
> being successful at desktop Linux means supporting multimedia production
> tools. Apple realised this long ago with Garage band, iphoto, imovie,
> etc...
> 
> I wouldn't be at all surprised if Microsoft and Avid were paying people to
> sabotage the major distros.

:D

There's a similar discussion here and I quoted you:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2011-June/003364.html

One sentence I wrote there is:

"Booking and other annoying stuff already is a PITA, so tweak a Linux,
writing scripts, switching the DE is the very last a musician which to
do."                                                          ^^^^^
                                                              wish ;)

A new issue seems to be, that apps could become unstable, when they were
written for GNOME2 and GNOME2 becomes unsupported.

> They surely see Linux multimedia production
> tools as a significant threat by now. The last thing they want is for the
> tools to be widely installed and utilised ootb. At the moment there are
> only hardened Linux users pushing development. With more unified
> distribution from the major distros that will significantly increase the
> user base and the potential for funding of major development efforts to
> close the remaining gaps.
> 
> Avid and Microsoft are well aware of this current situation and are no
> doubt doing their best to keep the status quo. In other words they are
> poisoning the well.
> 
> If it's not that then the only option left is incompetence on the part of
> the major distro's and the people they pay or choose not to pay to look
> after this stuff. But as it really doesn't take much effort on the part of
> Avid and Microsoft to get to those people and they can print cash to
> facilitate their agenda I have given up on the idea that the current
> situation is due to incompetence.

It seems to be that Mark Shuttleworth (I never liked people like him)
does force the Ubuntu Studio guys to do everything as Ubuntu does for
averaged desktop users, which in IMO is idiocy. IMO we are under
friendly fire too!!!

2 Cents,

Ralf