[LAU] EMail To Tascam - HARDCORE COLD HARD FACTS

Gerald Mwangi gerald.mwangi at gmx.de
Thu Apr 12 21:56:58 UTC 2012


Well please be so polite to reply which companies are linux friendly. In
a calm, serene and polite/friendly fashion.
Thanx,
Gerald
On Do, 2012-04-12 at 17:42 -0400, Ronald Stewart wrote:

> wait are you saying Focusrite is Linux friendly? thats weird because I
> talked to the USA national rep about taking Dr. Dre's Beats laptop
> (actually Dre's laptop) to Guitar Center in Inglewood Ca. to plug in
> the saffire 6 I think its called (usb turd) to run a special version
> of Indamixx OS for Beats laptop and even the national rep couldnt
> confirm compatibility so we literally got in the car and went to GC to
> plug and play and NADA.
> Funny thing the rep never answered the phone again after we emailed
> him it didn't work... so if you got it going YOURE THE MAN cuz no one
> at focusrite could at least in USA as in the whole country of the
> united states :)
> 
> "hehe" Nelson
> 
> thnx
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Gerald Mwangi <gerald.mwangi at gmx.de>
> wrote:
> 
>         Hi,
>         well the fact is: Even though searching the net extensively, I
>         don't know which companies are linux friendly (except
>         Focusrite).
>         So maybe an Idea is to put a list on linuxaudio.org . Or is it
>         there and I missed it?
>         Regards,
>         Gerald
>         
>         
>         On Do, 2012-04-12 at 21:15 +0200, thijs van severen wrote:
>         
>         > hey Ronald, having a bad day ?  ;-))
>         > 
>         > 2012/4/12 Ronald Stewart <ronaldjstewart at gmail.com>
>         > 
>         >         maybe I got up on the wrong side of the bed today
>         >         but here is the cold hard facts and truth about the
>         >         musical instrument business and Linux Audio.
>         >         
>         >         First, I have sat down with Tascam TOP DECISION
>         >         MAKERS for over 30 hours in 7 years with TOTAL FACE
>         >         TO FACE conversations
>         >         along with Alesis, Akai, M-Audio, AVID, and EVERY
>         >         OTHER manufacturer on EARTH!!!
>         >         Plus I have dealt with Guitar Center, Musicians
>         >         Friend, and SamAsh buyers for nearly 4 years.
>         >         
>         >         Second, Tascam sucks and what you and ALL OTHERS WHO
>         >         WRITE THIS LONG FELT STORY ABOUT THE POTENTIAL of
>         >         Linux Audio users need to know
>         >         and DO is SUPPORT companies that do support Linux
>         >         Audio.  I suggest Echo Audio because they work with
>         >         Linux and FFADO and others to make a great user
>         >         experience for 
>         >         Linux Audio.  There are others like Harrison, RME
>         >         (kinda) and some class compliant supported devices
>         >         Edirol, Lexicon, M-audio etc. that are Linux
>         >         friendly NOT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE but because of
>         >         the STEVE JOBS affect of Apple.  In fact Linux is
>         >         not a priority and neither was Apple until the brute
>         >         force MARKET SHIFT in Apple lately.
>         >         Linux is 1% and Apple is at best 7% and the only
>         >         reason why ANY of these companies are working with
>         >         Apple is because you CANNOT get into an Apple store
>         >         or their ECOSYSTEM UNLESS you are class compliant.
>         >         Until 2 years ago companies like m-audio and all the
>         >         rest had their own driver mickey mouse way of making
>         >         things work.
>         >         Thank GOD that Apple finally kicked butt enough to
>         >         straighten out the musical instrument companies bot
>         >         because they are "great guys" but because of
>         >         MONEY!!!
>         >         
>         >         Now you and everyone else can take this info as fact
>         >         or not.  BUT and HOWEVER, I have spent tens of
>         >         thousands of dollars trying to build products in
>         >         Linux for Linux for YEARS!!!!  With tens of
>         >         thousands of dollars spent I can tell you from my
>         >         checkbook and WALLET that I maybe moved the ball
>         >         from the one yard line to the nine yard line.
>         >         
>         >         From experience just go with companies who care
>         >         about Linux and the user experience and who PUT
>         >         THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS!!!!
>         >         Support those programs, software, hardware etc.
>         >         instead of writing 'heartful letters' in hope of
>         >         response.  I guarantee you that the decision makers
>         >         at these companies 
>         >         ARE NOT THAT SMART in fact if they were Apple would
>         >         hire them.  These 'others' are there because they
>         >         SUCK at their jobs and decision making abilities and
>         >         that is why
>         >         if you ever go to a trade show you will see that
>         >         companies like FILL IN THE BLANK do not make new and
>         >         cool stuff but wait for a GREAT product to come
>         >         along and then KNOCK IT OFF so that everyone else
>         >         benefits.  The worst part of this is that users go
>         >         and buy their garbage keeping us in the INSANE LOOPS
>         >         OF CRAPPY STUFF THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>         >         
>         >         EXAMPLE the monome cool product with buttons and now
>         >         their are lame copies by ALL THE BIG BOYS and sadly
>         >         thats the one a lot of people buy to keep this
>         >         CRAPPY party going.
>         >         
>         >         Period end of story.... if you thinnk you know
>         >         better then send me your receipts of all the money
>         >         you spent to challenge and debunk THIS HARD CORE
>         >         FACT!!!
>         >         
>         >         BIG REQUEST can someone post this response somewhere
>         >         so every time this subject comes up I don't have to
>         >         keep spelling it out :)
>         >         
>         >         Thank you
>         >         
>         >         Ronald Stewart
>         >         Indamixx
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Gerald Mwangi
>         >         <gerald.mwangi at gmx.de> wrote: 
>         >         
>         >                 Hi guys, I sent the following mail to TASCAM
>         >                 (to the pre-sales information). Hope to move
>         >                 something in their thinking.
>         >                 Regards,
>         >                 Gerald
>         >                 
>         >                 
>         >                 Hello,
>         >                 I'm deciding whether to buy the US-1800.
>         >                 Since I run Linux (Ubuntu) with jack and
>         >                 ardour (www.ardour.org ), I need to know if
>         >                 the device is USB 2.0 audio class compliant
>         >                 or if there are plans for a dedicated
>         >                 driver. Or at least plans to publish
>         >                 sufficient information to the linux audio
>         >                 developers (linuxaudio.org). If nothing is
>         >                 planned in that direction, I will switch to
>         >                 the Firewire solutions from Focusrite, since
>         >                 Focusrite actively supports the linux audio
>         >                 developers! It's not that much work to
>         >                 disclose some information. And you'll have
>         >                 some 500+ linux musicians BUYING YOUR
>         >                 PRODUCTS! Afterall, your a hardware vendor,
>         >                 not a software vendor.
>         >                 Regards,
>         >                 Gerald Mwangi 
>         >                 
>         >                 
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