[LAU] pol

Dan MacDonald allcoms at gmail.com
Tue Apr 24 07:03:46 UTC 2012

I had seen ads or mentions for that 'certain brand' hardware VST unit but I
had no idea it used wine! That is the craziest thing I've read on this list
so far actually!

I know wine is an amazing feat of reverse eng and does work well enough
these days to let you run PS CS5, Office 2007, FL and many big name games
almost as well (sometimes a bit better) than real Windows but from my
limited testing of running Windows VST plugins under wine vs a native host
(like XP/Reaper) you can run twice if not more plugins when run natively on
the same hardware.

I only run Linux at home and have been doing for longer than most so I love
hearing about the continual spread of the penguin but I really don't think
this is an appropriate us of it- at least not until the majority of plugins
get ported and released natively for Linux so the wine bit could be avoided
and the plugins run natively.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 6:46 PM, shane richards <shanerich at email.com> wrote:

> I can attest that being "guerillas" can only go so far. I know Patrick,
> Paul etc. have also tried both the "technical" and the "buddy-buddy"
> approach. It's not working. I've commented before that all the engineers
> and musicians I've worked with are now not only comfortable with my "nerdy"
> system being patched in, but also interested in some of the tools we have
> as native.
> It's when they ask about such things as hardware support - well, I
> wouldn't even know what to buy these days...and I've been a Linux
> enthusiast for 15 years now. When I finally find the information needed, it
> seems (to them) to be a little "BBS like", and it's a turn off for many
> people. The drivers list was mentioned earlier, and I often look at that
> list and think "I really can't be bothered figuring out which card contains
> what chip that doesn't conflict with some stupid video driver". The latter
> being a deplorable situation in Linux and really needs to be fixed - I mean
> video drivers/chips that conflict with audio? Ridiculous. And much of this
> you only find out *after* making said hardware purchase. People down this
> part of the world don't have that kind of money to spend - a new Hammerfall
> means hard saving (huevos y arroz!) for a year or so for a youngish person.
> That's a real gamble, and a turnoff.
> Now, if those pages featured the ocaissional advert for Linux friendly
> audio products/services, it might provide a "tipping-point" for a few
> people. I could point to a picture and say - what about this product? I've
> seen this at play - the difference in attitude after showing some of the
> Mixbus commercials is what enabled me to convince a few people to tryout
> Ardour, before perhaps buying its commercial spin-off, or donating. Also,
> I've noticed that a certain brand of hardware VST unit is Linux/wine under
> the hood. When I was able to point at that well-known name, sitting in the
> middle of the rack, attitudes immediately changed. The first thing they did
> was check the adverts on the net. Then came the smiles. These people
> couldn't give a hoot about philosophy.
> So if some ads on a website can improve the image and knowledge of what
> people on this list are doing, and help pay for a website, I'm all for it.
> Shane.
> PS: why is it that everytime this subject comes up, I'm in Ecuador? Spooky
> correlation...
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